Cyclists demonised in paper, todays metro
Cyclists demonised in paper, todays metro
Makes me so angry, why refer to a mindless thug as a cyclist, just because he had a cycle with him at the time?
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Because the cycling (on the footpath, where he shouldn't have been cycling) is actually a relevant part of the story.
I don't see it's painting all of us as folk who'll stab pensioners who point out we're breaking the law.
I don't see it's painting all of us as folk who'll stab pensioners who point out we're breaking the law.
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.79237 ... 6656?hl=en
Looking at the road, the pavements are wide, the cycle lane fairly narrow on at least one side, not sure of precise location of incident. A sad situation leading to a death. I think this is the location see
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.79235 ... m6!1e1!3m4
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.79235 ... 6656?hl=en
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Looking at the road, the pavements are wide, the cycle lane fairly narrow on at least one side, not sure of precise location of incident. A sad situation leading to a death. I think this is the location see
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.79235 ... m6!1e1!3m4
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.79235 ... 6656?hl=en
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If the victim had been wearing a helmet surely they would still be alive, only got themselves to blame...
This type of reporting will always fan the flames, we already know that people liken people on bikes to devils spawn. This isn't even a cycling statistic is it, the act did not happen whilst the person was actually cycling but the media will use any opportunity to bash cycling and people on bikes and yes the general public do take this on board and paint 'us' all with the same brush.
RIP to the victim and his family, no way to die.
This type of reporting will always fan the flames, we already know that people liken people on bikes to devils spawn. This isn't even a cycling statistic is it, the act did not happen whilst the person was actually cycling but the media will use any opportunity to bash cycling and people on bikes and yes the general public do take this on board and paint 'us' all with the same brush.
RIP to the victim and his family, no way to die.
Re: Cyclists demonised in paper, todays metro
pjclinch wrote:Because the cycling (on the footpath, where he shouldn't have been cycling) is actually a relevant part of the story.
I don't see it's painting all of us as folk who'll stab pensioners who point out we're breaking the law.
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The Metro headline is more accurate than yours, OP.
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gaz wrote:pjclinch wrote:Because the cycling (on the footpath, where he shouldn't have been cycling) is actually a relevant part of the story.
I don't see it's painting all of us as folk who'll stab pensioners who point out we're breaking the law.
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I don't see anything wrong with the article. I see a great deal wrong with the cyclist's behaviour, and the sentence seems quite appropriate - lenient, even.
We have to accept that when someone commits a crime whilst, or just after, riding a bicycle, they're going to be referred to as a 'cyclist' in the crime report. That's not 'demonisation' as I see it.
We have to accept that when someone commits a crime whilst, or just after, riding a bicycle, they're going to be referred to as a 'cyclist' in the crime report. That's not 'demonisation' as I see it.
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Re: Cyclists demonised in paper, todays metro
crass in the extremeThe utility cyclist wrote:If the victim had been wearing a helmet surely they would still be alive, only got themselves to blame...
This type of reporting will always fan the flames, we already know that people liken people on bikes to devils spawn.
To some people that's true,but then some people will consider any other groups of 'outsiders' to be "devils spawn",including pensioners and the disabled.
This isn't even a cycling statistic is it, the act did not happen whilst the person was actually cycling but the media will use any opportunity to bash cycling and people on bikes and yes the general public do take this on board and paint 'us' all with the same brush.
It's a cycling story,someone's cycling on the pavement causing an obstruction is tackled for it by someone more vulnerable than them and this is how they react.
Does the story sound familiar if you substitute cyclist for motorist and pedestrian for cyclist?
RIP to the victim and his family, no way to die.
You got there in the end.
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reohn2 wrote:crass in the extremeThe utility cyclist wrote:If the victim had been wearing a helmet surely they would still be alive, only got themselves to blame...
This type of reporting will always fan the flames, we already know that people liken people on bikes to devils spawn.
To some people that's true,but then some people will consider any other groups of 'outsiders' to be "devils spawn".This isn't even a cycling statistic is it, the act did not happen whilst the person was actually cycling but the media will use any opportunity to bash cycling and people on bikes and yes the general public do take this on board and paint 'us' all with the same brush.
It's a cycling story,someone's cycling on the pavement causing an obstruction is tackled for it by someone more vulnerable than them and this is how they react.
Does the story sound familiar if you substitute cyclist for motorist and pedestrian for cyclist?RIP to the victim and his family, no way to die.
You got there in the end.
+1 ..
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Mattyfez wrote:Makes me so angry, why refer to a mindless thug as a cyclist, just because he had a cycle with him at the time?
Person on bike = cyclist,pretty obvious.
Thug yes,but also a cyclist too.
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The aggressor could have been vegetarian for all we know, but sadly the headline didn't read 'vegetarian kills veteran'.
So we'll never know the full extent of how aggressive vegetarians can be.
So we'll never know the full extent of how aggressive vegetarians can be.
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Cyclists demonised in paper, todays metro
reohn2 wrote:crass in the extremeThe utility cyclist wrote:If the victim had been wearing a helmet surely they would still be alive, only got themselves to blame...
This type of reporting will always fan the flames, we already know that people liken people on bikes to devils spawn.
To some people that's true,but then some people will consider any other groups of 'outsiders' to be "devils spawn",including pensioners and the disabled.This isn't even a cycling statistic is it, the act did not happen whilst the person was actually cycling but the media will use any opportunity to bash cycling and people on bikes and yes the general public do take this on board and paint 'us' all with the same brush.
It's a cycling story,someone's cycling on the pavement causing an obstruction is tackled for it by someone more vulnerable than them and this is how they react.
Does the story sound familiar if you substitute cyclist for motorist and pedestrian for cyclist?RIP to the victim and his family, no way to die.
You got there in the end.
My thoughts exactly. +1 No cheap laughs from me [emoji107]
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Mattyfez wrote:The aggressor could have been vegetarian for all we know, but sadly the headline didn't read 'vegetarian kills veteran'.
So we'll never know the full extent of how aggressive vegetarians can be.
But what we do know is that he was a cyclist and a thug,that's all we need to know in the context of the offence he's committed.
What he had for dinner is irrelevant,as is the colour of his hair,eyes,skin,religion,height,etc,etc.
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Cyclists demonised in paper, todays metro
Mattyfez wrote:The aggressor could have been vegetarian for all we know, but sadly the headline didn't read 'vegetarian kills veteran'.
So we'll never know the full extent of how aggressive vegetarians can be.
I really don't think this is an opportunity to try out your inappropriate sense of humour. [emoji107]
If your reasons as a 'cyclist' and OP, aren't about genuine concern for media labelling or the victim; then being a 'cyclist' is exactly the label I don't want. Your opinions on a terrible incident do not represent me.
Sincerely,
A person who uses a bike.
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