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Postby Vorpal » 5 Jul 2017, 2:41pm

Grayling says that vehicle excise duty will fund his ambitious road building schemes...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -xzlkm6bnp
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/tr ... ocal-roads
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Postby pwa » 5 Jul 2017, 4:28pm

And that means that when a driver tells you he/she pays for the road you're cycling on they will be right. What an idiot.

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Postby De Sisti » 5 Jul 2017, 6:40pm

Vorpal wrote:Grayling says that vehicle excise duty will fund his ambitious road building schemes...

So will general income tax (to pay for ambitious road building schemes); which we all pay.

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Postby reohn2 » 5 Jul 2017, 7:22pm

The government needs to repair the roads we already have to a decent standard first,they're in a disgraceful state presently.
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Postby Lance Dopestrong » 5 Jul 2017, 8:32pm

I pay zero road tax on my Twizy. I doubt Chris Grayling will be building much with that.
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Postby Mick F » 6 Jul 2017, 12:57pm

Zero on my Fiat500 as well.
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Postby Psamathe » 6 Jul 2017, 1:00pm

pwa wrote:And that means that when a driver tells you he/she pays for the road you're cycling on they will be right......

I agree but people who think like that maybe not the smartest as it does not take much to realise that many cyclists are also drivers and also have cars and thus those cyclists are paying in the same way (through their car ownership)!

pwa wrote:... What an idiot.

I agree.

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Postby reohn2 » 6 Jul 2017, 1:29pm

Psamathe wrote:
pwa wrote:And that means that when a driver tells you he/she pays for the road you're cycling on they will be right......

I agree but people who think like that maybe not the smartest as it does not take much to realise that many cyclists are also drivers and also have cars and thus those cyclists are paying in the same way (through their car ownership)!

Ian

The problem is it's the idiots who are the most dangerous and think the roads belong only to them,if idiot Grayling gets his way idiot drivers will feel their idiotic thought process and idiotic actions justified!
And because of a total lack of any kind of police presence or effectiveness on our roads there'll be no one there to stop them :twisted:
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Postby AMMoffat » 6 Jul 2017, 3:35pm

"The money will be targeted at projects to help rebalance the economy, the Department for Transport added"

Sadly it sounds like this money will be prioritised towards new roads rather than fixing the knackered roads in most of our towns and cities

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Postby mjr » 6 Jul 2017, 4:37pm

AMMoffat wrote:"The money will be targeted at projects to help rebalance the economy, the Department for Transport added"

Sadly it sounds like this money will be prioritised towards new roads rather than fixing the knackered roads in most of our towns and cities

Sounds like the money will be spent on bus roads and cycle roads. I bet it won't. I bet "rebalance the economy" means "make us all poorer by encouraging more motoring".
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Postby Mr Evil » 6 Jul 2017, 5:23pm

Income from VED: £6B/year
Expenditure on roads: £9B/year


I guess that must mean they are actually going to reduce spending on roads by £3B! Great!

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Postby thirdcrank » 6 Jul 2017, 5:35pm

Let's remember the way something is spun and the way it is subsequently rolled out may be very different. Let's also remember that there's an undeclared leadership competition being fought in the Tory Party, with the candidates jockeying for position to be ready for the vacancy, which could be at any time and might be a surprise to many. So, we have people announcing that they are, for example, in favour of an end to austerity. Hinting that more will be spent on roads is assumed to be a vote-winner, even if the reality is somewhat different.

As the late Michael Winner might have said, "Calm down dear: it's only aspirations."
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Postby MikeF » 7 Jul 2017, 10:37pm

“At the heart of our approach is a plan to make transport work for the people who use it and for the wider economy.” :? :? :? Er What??

Which people don't use transport?
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Postby Lance Dopestrong » 8 Jul 2017, 8:38am

Erm, prisoners. Coma patients. Er, agoraphobics.
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Postby Steady rider » 8 Jul 2017, 7:24pm

Mr Evil wrote

Mr Evil » 6 Jul 2017, 5:23pm

Income from VED: £6B/year
Expenditure on roads: £9B/year

I guess that must mean they are actually going to reduce spending on roads by £3B! Great!


Total transport spending appears to £28.1 billion, aircraft may be extra?
If 3% was spent on cycling infrastructure (to a good standard), that would be £843 million per year. This would help provide facilities to raise the level of cycling and improve safety. Over a 10 year period this level of spending could deliver a net social benefit to health and improve the UK for people.
A private members bill in Parliament could detail a 3% requirement, specifically for high quality infrastructure and provide a cost analysis to gain support.