Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby landsurfer » 13 Nov 2018, 12:18pm

gaz wrote:[
The Council also have a legal duty to provide access for disabled people, many of whom use cycles.


Really, the cycling disabled are somewhat thin on the ground here in Yorkshire, especially in towns.
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby mjr » 13 Nov 2018, 3:38pm

landsurfer wrote:
gaz wrote:[
The Council also have a legal duty to provide access for disabled people, many of whom use cycles.


Really, the cycling disabled are somewhat thin on the ground here in Yorkshire, especially in towns.

Two things come to mind:
1. if Yorkshire towns are rubbish at providing access for disabled cyclists, is it any surprise that they're somewhat thin on the ground?
2. the cycling disabled are not thin on the ground where they're provided for, such as in Cambridge https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018 ... king-stick
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby Vorpal » 13 Nov 2018, 6:12pm

landsurfer wrote:
gaz wrote:[
The Council also have a legal duty to provide access for disabled people, many of whom use cycles.


Really, the cycling disabled are somewhat thin on the ground here in Yorkshire, especially in towns.

That's the standard argument against providing provision for anyone, including cyclists. There aren't many, so they don't need anything.
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Nov 2018, 6:52pm

landsurfer wrote:
gaz wrote:[
The Council also have a legal duty to provide access for disabled people, many of whom use cycles.


Really, the cycling disabled are somewhat thin on the ground here in Yorkshire, especially in towns.

Many, maybe most, disabled people hardly go out, exactly because access is so difficult, an unvirtuous spiral of cause and effect
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Nov 2018, 6:55pm

djrikki wrote:..
Ps. cycling up one-way streets - different subject but the majority of no-entry signs need to be revisited and have 'except cycles' written underneath on square signs with rounded edges and made of metal

Much too scary and dangerous for me :?
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby landsurfer » 13 Nov 2018, 7:04pm

Sorry that was out of context ... my response was to the amount of disabled people that cycle ...
Riding a bicycle requires a great deal of ability, being disabled may reduce the numbers of cyclists within the disabled group as opposed to the abled / ability group in society.
As the husband of a disabled wife i genuinely understand the restrictions and opportunities a disability can provide.
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Nov 2018, 7:17pm

Lots of people are not visibly disabled, maybe they have problems with their lungs, cannot see well, etc etc

There is a care home near me, one sometimes sees residents sitting outside in their wheelchairs but they do not go anywhere, maybe they have a bus trip once a year. I fear a lot of them survived trying to take their own lives but were severely injured and the other half were disabled by road 'accidents' :(
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Nov 2018, 7:19pm

landsurfer wrote:Sorry that was out of context ... my response was to the amount of disabled people that cycle ...
Riding a bicycle requires a great deal of ability, being disabled may reduce the numbers of cyclists within the disabled group as opposed to the abled / ability group in society.
As the husband of a disabled wife i genuinely understand the restrictions and opportunities a disability can provide.

Opportunities? Please explain
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby landsurfer » 13 Nov 2018, 7:25pm

brynpoeth wrote:
landsurfer wrote:Sorry that was out of context ... my response was to the amount of disabled people that cycle ...
Riding a bicycle requires a great deal of ability, being disabled may reduce the numbers of cyclists within the disabled group as opposed to the abled / ability group in society.
As the husband of a disabled wife i genuinely understand the restrictions and opportunities a disability can provide.

Opportunities? Please explain


Through her disability Julie has met a new peer group, made friends within that peer group ... disability has many negative realities, but some positives as well...
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby reohn2 » 13 Nov 2018, 8:14pm

I think it's safe to say the country is anti cycling :?
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Nov 2018, 8:29pm

reohn2 wrote:I think it's safe to say the country is anti cycling :?

Or un-safe to say :?
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby drossall » 13 Nov 2018, 8:31pm

pete75 wrote:No, no cycling that's a good one but it's effectively what the sign means. Doesn't the white cycle on a blue background below also mean cycling allowed. Contradictory signage - how is anyone to know which is correct?

At least the sign and the accompanying text are consistent. One says "No no cycling", and the other says that "No cycling" is permitted - which of course is what there will be if no cyclists go there any more :lol:

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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby landsurfer » 13 Nov 2018, 8:41pm

This country is anti-cycling, .... motoring, walking, swimming, pizza, motorbikes, hats, .... pick your own relevant "Anti" ....
In reality we are probably one of the most tolerant societies on the planet ... we even release terrorists to walk among us.... !
We are "Anti " nothing in this country ... lets stop trying to find a reason to be victims ..... :)
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby reohn2 » 13 Nov 2018, 9:24pm

landsurfer wrote:This country is anti-cycling, .... motoring, walking, swimming, pizza, motorbikes, hats, .... pick your own relevant "Anti" ....
In reality we are probably one of the most tolerant societies on the planet ... we even release terrorists to walk among us.... !
We are "Anti " nothing in this country ... lets stop trying to find a reason to be victims ..... :)

If I could only agree :?

EDIT:- for a progressive and tolerant country,especially with regard to cycling take a trip to NL.
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Re: Public Places Protection order bans cycling on NCN route

Postby Cunobelin » 14 Nov 2018, 6:39am

landsurfer wrote:
gaz wrote:[
The Council also have a legal duty to provide access for disabled people, many of whom use cycles.



Really, the cycling disabled are somewhat thin on the ground here in Yorkshire, especially in towns.


Doesn't mean they cannot be catered for.

My wife is disabled and used to ride a recumbent trike with pedal assist, we were allowed to cycle trough Gosport and on to the Gosport Ferry, they accepted it as a "wheelchair"