Nick Freeman Attacks "exceptional hardship"

[Bonefishblues]

Punishments for offending tend to be unpleasant and something like loss of liberty a lot more so than the loss of the driving licence. IMO, anybody who needs to drive ie most of us - should think long term.

I agree.

[[XAP]Bob]

You said poor drivers, apropos offences related to the practice of driving, hence my comment. I note the different definition you now introduce.

Surely poor driving is creating a danger to others or yourself and encompasses all the things they include, be they 'using mobile 'phone, poor vehicle maintenance etc - I can't see any in their list which aren't reasonable.

OK, that's clarified your definition, which is wider than the act of driving, clearly.

So you don't consider checking that the tyres are inflated and not bald to be "part of driving"?

[Bonefishblues]

Surely poor driving is creating a danger to others or yourself and encompasses all the things they include, be they 'using mobile 'phone, poor vehicle maintenance etc - I can't see any in their list which aren't reasonable.

OK, that's clarified your definition, which is wider than the act of driving, clearly.

So you don't consider checking that the tyres are inflated and not bald to be "part of driving"?

What is it, invent words that weren't said by someone day? Please read the posts.