Bmblbzzz wrote:Tractors are a bit of an exception, being found almost exclusively on rural lanes rather than major roads or urban congestion. Even in the deep country, I'd say they're a smaller proportion of all motor traffic than the 10mph potterers and strugglers are of cycle traffic.
I'm not sure why you think they're "found almost exclusively on rural lanes rather than major roads". They go past my home on the A10 most hours of daylight. For the point I was making, it doesn't matter how small a proportion they are - they're still the slowest motors on the road, travelling at between half and a quarter the speed of some, and drivers have to be ready to encounter them.
Cugel wrote:So, if we still want the young and inexperienced to be able to cycle from the many As to the many Bs in a safe fashion, we should look to the fundamental cause of the danger extant within the current A to B infrastructure of the roads. That danger is motorised traffic which is unsufficiently controlled with respect to the dangers it presents.
OK, great, let's control it with kerbs and posts to keep it off the bits of road reserved for cycling! Or is that not what you meant?
There are several other benefits to reducing the danger from road traffic via a more serious effort to cvontrol it.
The danger to other road users, mostly car-to-car dangers, will also be reduced. Same for pedestrians, road workers, horse riders and lollypop ladies. Et al.
Lovely. Motherhood and apple pie. But how to achieve it? What should we do?
Are we going to build a separate infrastructure for less experienced motorists; or for those that always drive safely? Hardly.
OK, great, that's more of what we're not going to do. What should we do?
Other benefits involve a general reduction in the attitudes and associated behaviours of me-my-I, selfish little skinbag; rabid individualista; and other anti-social stuff all too prevalent (and often as toxic as poor driving) in our society.
There are more advantages to controlling dangerous driving that could be listed, from reducing pollutants (from the roaring heavy-foots) to reducing the carnage of hedgehogs.
OK, great, more apple pie. But how to achieve it? What should we do?
Not all problems need a new solution. There are many old solutions once used and now forgot that would be just as effective - and easy to implement - and far less costly than a new solution. New solutions also come with 99 unintended consequences. Old solutions usually have such consequences long-revealed and so easier to eliminate.
OK, great. So what other old solutions besides cycleways would you like to suggest?
So how about a 1p on the tax to pay for a large swathe of traffic policemen; a huge increase in speed cameras; a justice system that's swift and responsive...............?
Well that's finally an idea but I think there's pretty much no chance of the majority of the population agreeing to it, so it's even less likely than future British cycleways being built without boneheaded mistakes in them.
Have you any ideas which might be more feasible?