Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Tangled Metal » 15 Jul 2019, 10:21am

I knew someone who enjoyed running round a lot of Lakeland hills in 24 hours. I believe it was some round our challenge. He was 67 years old at the time. A bit of a curmudgeon who I could easily imagine writing such a letter about the lakes.

Another person ran from windermere to Coniston, ran a 24 mile challenge route to check it out then back home to windermere again. She was late 60s too. Not a curmudgeon though.

Certainties about what is possible for people you don't know is limited by the fact you're making assumptions. Those may be very valid and correct.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby pwa » 15 Jul 2019, 4:31pm

Tangled Metal wrote:I knew someone who enjoyed running round a lot of Lakeland hills in 24 hours. I believe it was some round our challenge. He was 67 years old at the time. A bit of a curmudgeon who I could easily imagine writing such a letter about the lakes.

Another person ran from windermere to Coniston, ran a 24 mile challenge route to check it out then back home to windermere again. She was late 60s too. Not a curmudgeon though.

Certainties about what is possible for people you don't know is limited by the fact you're making assumptions. Those may be very valid and correct.

The Bob Graham Round? For fit lads and lasses.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby 661-Pete » 16 Jul 2019, 9:54am

I'm guessing the letter was written after that despicable hate-filled programme against cyclists on Channel 5 the other day. Just goes to show: prejudice spawns prejudice; hate spawns hate. Where will it end?

As it happens we went for a stroll in the New Forest last Sunday - fairly late in the afternoon. Despite it being a Sunday, warm and sunny, once we were clear of the car park (yes we drove there :oops: ) there was hardly a soul about. Yes there were plenty of ponies, but no humans. As peaceful a walk as they come!

We have had an encounter with an extremely unpleasant individual on an earlier visit to the Forest. But I'm hoping that was a one-off.

Some people won't be appeased though.
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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Tangled Metal » 16 Jul 2019, 10:18am

pwa wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:I knew someone who enjoyed running round a lot of Lakeland hills in 24 hours. I believe it was some round our challenge. He was 67 years old at the time. A bit of a curmudgeon who I could easily imagine writing such a letter about the lakes.

Another person ran from windermere to Coniston, ran a 24 mile challenge route to check it out then back home to windermere again. She was late 60s too. Not a curmudgeon though.

Certainties about what is possible for people you don't know is limited by the fact you're making assumptions. Those may be very valid and correct.

The Bob Graham Round? For fit lads and lasses.

Quite. Makes for a half decent long weekend though with ul kit.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Bonefishblues » 16 Jul 2019, 10:37am

661-Pete wrote:I'm guessing the letter was written after that despicable hate-filled programme against cyclists on Channel 5 the other day. Just goes to show: prejudice spawns prejudice; hate spawns hate. Where will it end?

As it happens we went for a stroll in the New Forest last Sunday - fairly late in the afternoon. Despite it being a Sunday, warm and sunny, once we were clear of the car park (yes we drove there :oops: ) there was hardly a soul about. Yes there were plenty of ponies, but no humans. As peaceful a walk as they come!

We have had an encounter with an extremely unpleasant individual on an earlier visit to the Forest. But I'm hoping that was a one-off.

Some people won't be appeased though.

Was there also a similar anti-BBQ programme, also an anti-rope one, and what else did they rant about?

Not sure it 'goes to show 'anything tbh, nor do I think it's anything about very much, as I may previously have intimated :D

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby pwa » 16 Jul 2019, 10:45am

There are two main problems with BBQs in rural / beach locations. One is fire risk and the other is abandoned rubbish that somebody else is presumably expected to clear away. I have known hard working park rangers, with a long list of other jobs to do, frustrated at having to spend Monday mornings filling a trailer with all the BBQ and pop-up tent rubbish when they would prefer to be getting on with projects to improve facilities.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby 661-Pete » 16 Jul 2019, 1:44pm

Bonefishblues wrote:Was there also a similar anti-BBQ programme, also an anti-rope one, and what else did they rant about?
Lighting any sort of fire - including barbecues - in an area with high fire risk - is generally agreed to be anti-social. I don't know about New Forest by-laws but in many similar areas there are prohibitions on fires.

I wouldn't know about rope swings - unsightly, maybe, and a risk to wildlife?

The point I was trying to make, was that the writer saw fit to bundle 'cyclists' with all the other 'undesirables' he mentioned. I have a feeling, cyclists might not have had a mention had it not been for the programme in question.
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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Bonefishblues » 16 Jul 2019, 1:46pm

661-Pete wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:Was there also a similar anti-BBQ programme, also an anti-rope one, and what else did they rant about?
Lighting any sort of fire - including barbecues - in an area with high fire risk - is generally agreed to be anti-social. I don't know about New Forest by-laws but in many similar areas there are prohibitions on fires.

I wouldn't know about rope swings - unsightly, maybe, and a risk to wildlife?

The point I was trying to make, was that the writer saw fit to bundle 'cyclists' with all the other 'undesirables' he mentioned. I have a feeling, cyclists might not have had a mention had it not been for the programme in question.

That's looking through a cyclist's lens, perhaps?

Were I a BBQ aficionado, I might be similarly upset at being bundled with the others :D

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Tangled Metal » 16 Jul 2019, 2:03pm

I'm offended! As a keen rope swinger who does no harm to anyone I resent being linked to the polluting BBQers.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Bonefishblues » 16 Jul 2019, 2:06pm

Tangled Metal wrote:I'm offended! As a keen rope swinger who does no harm to anyone I resent being linked to the polluting BBQers.

We live in a ropist world I'm afraid. A person can't walk through the woods with their favourite rope without being approached by those who are against swinging.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Tangled Metal » 16 Jul 2019, 3:09pm

Rope swinging if you don't mind. Swinging without mention of rope is so passé. It's a seventies thing and definitely not what I do! :D

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby brynpoeth » 16 Jul 2019, 5:29pm

TM: bungee jumping? :?
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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby 661-Pete » 16 Jul 2019, 5:31pm

I shouldn't be at all surprised to learn that a fair bit of Swinging goes on in the New Forest. But as I said, we didn't meet a soul, so remained blissfully unaware of this possibility. Even the ponies were behaving themselves.... :roll: :lol:
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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby Bonefishblues » 16 Jul 2019, 6:02pm

661-Pete wrote:I shouldn't be at all surprised to learn that a fair bit of Swinging goes on in the New Forest. But as I said, we didn't meet a soul, so remained blissfully unaware of this possibility. Even the ponies were behaving themselves.... :roll: :lol:

I'm sorry, but this just came into my mind :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMikaIYbFu8

I assume everyone's seen the clip, but if not, worth searching out the full clip, because excellent.

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Re: Letters: Help! The New Forest is becoming a suburban park

Postby brynpoeth » 16 Jul 2019, 9:18pm

The new forest has been a suburban park for hundreds of years :?
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