MPs say people will have to get out of their cars

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Re: MPs say people will have to get out of their cars

Postby squeaker » 25 Aug 2019, 9:14pm

roubaixtuesday wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:What about carbon / pollution making electric cars? Is it a lot less than ICE cars? I only ask because I thought a high proportion of the carbon footprint of ICE cars is in production. Has this carbon footprint and pollution in the manufacture of electric cars reduced significantly from ICE production? If not then are electric cars really the solution?

Serious question. Electric cars are better than ICE cars definitely but are they really a long term solution? What percentage of the ICE car's lifetime pollution is the level of pollution of the electric car? Anyone seen such figures?

Electric bikes, mopeds and motorbikes might be a better option. Or electric mass transportation systems.


Yes, but it depends on the source of the electricity. Here's a breakdown showing how it varies, source: https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-h ... ate-change

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Similar ratios to that presented (using what used to be called a 'busy' slide :shock: ) by Ricardo at a recent LCVP conference. Also in that presentation is the statement that "Life Cycle Impacts to be implemented in EU regulations by 2026" - what did the EU ever do for us? :roll:
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Re: MPs say people will have to get out of their cars

Postby warrendavies » 28 Aug 2019, 2:13pm

Carlton green wrote: It will not be possible or practical for all employees to live near the company, however a legal requirement for say 40% to live within say five miles (a 30 minute bike ride) would be sensible in terms of environmental transport concerns.


Good idea. It would take a brave politician to bring something like that in, but that is what it's going to take to solve the commuting issue. Carrot as well as stick required too - just takes a bit of imagination.

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Re: MPs say people will have to get out of their cars

Postby Wanlock Dod » 28 Aug 2019, 2:23pm

squeaker wrote:... - what did the EU ever do for us? :roll:


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Re: MPs say people will have to get out of their cars

Postby Carlton green » 28 Aug 2019, 4:41pm

warrendavies wrote:
Carlton green wrote: It will not be possible or practical for all employees to live near the company, however a legal requirement for say 40% to live within say five miles (a 30 minute bike ride) would be sensible in terms of environmental transport concerns.


Good idea. It would take a brave politician to bring something like that in, but that is what it's going to take to solve the commuting issue. Carrot as well as stick required too - just takes a bit of imagination.


Thank you. :-)

It might take a brave politician to bring in the suggested percentages but the key to such change is progression. Start with a readily acceptable percentage that establishes the principle - say 10% - and then increase it over a practical timescale. Most companies will find that they can comply without too much effort and will happily co-operate. There may need to be some career changes but if employers sympathetically help with employee swops between them and assist staff with relocation then problems will be reduced. As I have written in the Scottish Cities thread we need to remove the need to commute and part of doing that is not building new homes that are remote from workplaces and by building new workplaces where existing homes are. It’s not rocket science and all it needs is, as you say, “a bit of imagination”.