Pete Owens wrote:mjr wrote:Since 2016, UK highways departments can use the Dutch solution: two parallel give-way markings across the road to connect a cycle lane on the left with an side cycleway on the right, clearly showing that motorists should give way.
Like this
It looks like some intellectually challenged Dutch highway engineer has missed the irony in the facility of the month captions and thought they were examples of good practice to be followed, and has taken inspiration from:
http://wcc.crankfoot.xyz/facility-of-the-month/April2009.htmNote the white triangles painted on the Dutch cycleway clearly show that motorists have priority.
Curious. I don't think it should under the usual rules (that carriageway is a village access road, not a major road) and I don't think it did when I rode it (after the Streetview image) but I've not checked the video. It's also not quite what was being discussed because they ride on the right, of course. So here's another nearby two examples without give-way markings:
https://showmystreet.com/#u8nh9_3ju19_1p.b_-ke43 https://showmystreet.com/#uarni_3gjne_7r.b_-jh43 and there are plenty more.
As to the Humber Bridge Country Park example, I think what's wrong with it are the sharp angle of the turn, the lack of legal force in the cross-carriageway give-way marking back then and that it's apparently-needlessly been put right smack on top of a T-junction, but I'm not surprised if you listed it simply because it directs cyclists towards a cycleway because I think you dislike that and would rather everyone had to ride the A15 dual carriageway approach to the bridge with all the trucks.
I've seen the zebra-side crossings before (we've at least two locally) and I've also seen priority crossings of roads using only give-way markings. What I've not seen is UK diagonal access markings yet.
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