There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

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There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby Barks » 23 Mar 2020, 10:06pm

Please send onto your local councillors and any one else in a position of influence:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/23/2119 ... distancing

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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby mattsccm » 24 Mar 2020, 10:07am

I hate to say but when, eventually, we get back to near normal there will be a huge binge on all the things banned. Driving will be one of them. Possibly a few new cyclist will keep it up.

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Postby Cyril Haearn » 24 Mar 2020, 10:56am

This is a chance for great change, I shall certainly not be binge driving
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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby The utility cyclist » 24 Mar 2020, 10:22pm

Now is the time to stop up strategic parts of the highway network in towns and cities to motor traffic, a perfect opportunity for the best solution to increasing cycling and to make that cycling massively safer. We then only need police and the so called justice system to back up, had far too many idiots steaming along the roads just in 30 zones and treating them as race tracks.
Vans, trucks, saw one delivery vehicle doing about 50 round the estate road, it was bloody ridiculous, private motorists steaming around and not giving way at junctions/rbts.
There's far fewer vehicles but the dangers are no less than before, taking that tarmac back would resolve that so much.

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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby reohn2 » 24 Mar 2020, 10:37pm

The utility cyclist wrote:Now is the time to stop up strategic parts of the highway network in towns and cities to motor traffic, a perfect opportunity for the best solution to increasing cycling and to make that cycling massively safer. We then only need police and the so called justice system to back up, had far too many idiots steaming along the roads just in 30 zones and treating them as race tracks.
Vans, trucks, saw one delivery vehicle doing about 50 round the estate road, it was bloody ridiculous, private motorists steaming around and not giving way at junctions/rbts.
There's far fewer vehicles but the dangers are no less than before, taking that tarmac back would resolve that so much.

I agree wholeheartedly,but the only problem being that it simply won't happen with a capitalist rightwing government in power.
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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby The utility cyclist » 24 Mar 2020, 11:43pm

reohn2 wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:Now is the time to stop up strategic parts of the highway network in towns and cities to motor traffic, a perfect opportunity for the best solution to increasing cycling and to make that cycling massively safer. We then only need police and the so called justice system to back up, had far too many idiots steaming along the roads just in 30 zones and treating them as race tracks.
Vans, trucks, saw one delivery vehicle doing about 50 round the estate road, it was bloody ridiculous, private motorists steaming around and not giving way at junctions/rbts.
There's far fewer vehicles but the dangers are no less than before, taking that tarmac back would resolve that so much.

I agree wholeheartedly,but the only problem being that it simply won't happen with a capitalist rightwing government in power.

honestly I don't think it matters which party is in power, none of them will take the drastic action that's needed to save lives, not just of people on bikes, but those on foot and in motors, not to mention the premature pollution deaths, obesity related deaths and the massive costs that that causes the NHS.
All I've seen from Labour since the 70s (as far back as I've bothered to look) smacks of motorism, no less in reality than the tories.

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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby reohn2 » 25 Mar 2020, 8:27am

The utility cyclist wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:Now is the time to stop up strategic parts of the highway network in towns and cities to motor traffic, a perfect opportunity for the best solution to increasing cycling and to make that cycling massively safer. We then only need police and the so called justice system to back up, had far too many idiots steaming along the roads just in 30 zones and treating them as race tracks.
Vans, trucks, saw one delivery vehicle doing about 50 round the estate road, it was bloody ridiculous, private motorists steaming around and not giving way at junctions/rbts.
There's far fewer vehicles but the dangers are no less than before, taking that tarmac back would resolve that so much.

I agree wholeheartedly,but the only problem being that it simply won't happen with a capitalist rightwing government in power.

honestly I don't think it matters which party is in power, none of them will take the drastic action that's needed to save lives, not just of people on bikes, but those on foot and in motors, not to mention the premature pollution deaths, obesity related deaths and the massive costs that that causes the NHS.
All I've seen from Labour since the 70s (as far back as I've bothered to look) smacks of motorism, no less in reality than the tories.


I can only agree,the country went down the wrong path on transport many years ago,and now is frightened politically of admiting it and changing direction,which has led to the attitude of many that cycling is either a sport/fitness activity or just a nuisance road obstruction due to the ingrained belief that the roads were built exclusively for motors,highway planning has done nothing to dissuade them from that belief.
There are moves afoot for active travel by some councils up and down the country to alter the status quo,but it's a very slow and cash starved operation,the country seems to either ignore or miss the opportunity to change things at every turn.
It's sadly the British way,based and run on an out dated class system that believes you are what you have and in that hierarchy the bicycle,beautiful and practical as it is,comes bottom of the pile to the point of derision by all too many.
Just to add that the Labour party hasn't up until the last election been leftwing since before the Thatcher government
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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby carpetcleaner » 26 Mar 2020, 5:46pm

Once the virus danger has passed people will be just as keen on as before.

Restrictions on car use are a sure way for a political party to lose votes.

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Re: There’s no better time for cities to take space away from cars

Postby Bmblbzzz » 27 Mar 2020, 11:04am

Good time for it, yes, except of course no new construction work is going to start for the next half year or so, if not longer.
Binge driving after the lockdown? Yes, and before unless we hire some cops.
Nevertheless, many of London's commuter cyclists started in response to previous public transport problems and have kept it up, and I'd expect the same to happen this time.