pedals2slowly wrote:mjr wrote:pedals2slowly wrote:There will never be separate cycle facilities down narrow streets of terraced houses,
No, but they can be 20mph access-only no-through-motors.along narrow roads with shops all along them, so cyclists need to have confidence to ride assertively and feel safe everywhere and not be restricted to the minority of roads with cycle facilities.
Do you really believe it's mainly the fault of new cyclists not being assertive?New towns, new estates, new retail parks and big cities fair enough but one size does not fit all.
Doing those to consistent decent standards would be a good start.
Stick to the discussion, we are debating cycle space during lockdown. Yes 20 mph and no through roads are fine but doesn't give cyclists more road space.
Yes, it does, by removing the through motorists. It's literally part of the lockdown measures. From the announcement link: "some streets could become bike and bus-only while others remain available for motorists. More side streets could be closed to through traffic, to create low-traffic neighbourhoods and reduce rat-running while maintaining access for vehicles."
You introduced the word 'mainly' in relation to assertiveness - please don't create your own argument (again)
Leave aside that word, then: do you really think lack of assertiveness is the fault here?