mikeymo wrote:PDQ Mobile wrote:But basically and briefly my position was not changed.
Of course it wasn't. Nobody discusses these sorts of things to learn anything, that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?
Well I read stuff to try to understand at least some of it.
That the agri sector could have benefits from smaller scale, more organic methods and more diversity is a particular drum I have been banging for nearly half a century!!
40 years ago, in the hills of Wales, sheep were so oversubsidised, to the exclusion of much else, it had created a depleted environment and was a particular personal concern.
The EU was to some extent to blame for this but it should be seen in tandem with the greedy UK farming unions.
And various UK local and national Govt bodies.
Things changed in Brussels though.
Pressure from environmental groups, that have some clout there, has led to more emphasis on diversity and sustainability.
((The 3 crop rule so hated by enormous landowner Rees Mogg was an attempt at large scale soil improvement by the EU.
It makes farming just a little bit more "difficult", not just the application of masses of chemical fertilizer for the same crop on and on for decades.))
There will be a chance for UK agriculture to continue that more sustainable trend now.
I am not optimistic.
For example the UK eco bureaucrats have done some rather limited good but progress remains mired in poor policing of schemes though to outright fiddling and corruption.
This, is typical (from today's BBC)
It could be surmised as "all talk and no do".
A further point is that many of the consequences of a more organic and sustainable agriculture is that food will cost more, inevitably.
You can use dirt cheap labour and dubious practices in far flung places (Afica?) to reduce this effect but to my mind the long transport distance and the lack of effective controls on production methods outweigh the positives.
It is really just an exporting of our own existing problems.
There are cost benefits in scale.
Any tiny producer that has no niche market knows this.
There are also very significant benefits in having tax and duty free access to relatively near, different climactic zones and soils. Not to mention diversity of produce.
Johnson, liar, shyster and political opportunist that he is, focuses on fish!- the rights to which were sold with UK Govt and fishing industry blessing long ago.
Sold is sold.
They are important international agreements.
Yet Johnson uses the sea and island status of the UK for the same old Faragist (seen him anywhere?) political slogan that it always was, a vision of independence of supply that remains, and will foreseeably remain, a fantasy.