"Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"


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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby fastpedaller » 21 Aug 2020, 7:00pm

Hmm - the refusal document is 'unavailable at this time' - Does that really mean 'we don't want people to see it' or 'we're looking for other words of explanation, but will still refuse'???
laughable - If it wasn't so serious.

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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby Jdsk » 21 Aug 2020, 7:01pm

Just checked again... works for me.

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Postby fastpedaller » 21 Aug 2020, 8:08pm

That's weird..... I get this



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Postby Cyril Haearn » 21 Aug 2020, 8:29pm

Discouraging TDC the tragedy of drive-cycling, +1!
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby Jdsk » 21 Aug 2020, 8:33pm

fastpedaller wrote:That's weird..... I get this



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i'm now getting that too.

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Postby Jdsk » 21 Aug 2020, 8:40pm

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(Resolution limited by this site, but it's a bit better if you open the image in a new tab.)

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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby mercalia » 21 Aug 2020, 8:46pm

where does it say it is a cycle cafe?

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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby Jdsk » 21 Aug 2020, 8:48pm

That's one of the points that interested me. It's not prominent in the application, although it is mentioned in the correspondence.

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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby mjr » 21 Aug 2020, 9:32pm

fastpedaller wrote:That's weird..... I get this



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The 285CBD1A85125126ABFB2D11DE79DB93 in the link is a session code and expires. You have to follow the link to it from the planning application documents page. It's a stupid bug and hinders discussions of applications but lots of councils still use that system.
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby Jdsk » 21 Aug 2020, 9:39pm

Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby [XAP]Bob » 21 Aug 2020, 10:18pm

mjr wrote:
fastpedaller wrote:That's weird..... I get this



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The 285CBD1A85125126ABFB2D11DE79DB93 in the link is a session code and expires. You have to follow the link to it from the planning application documents page. It's a stupid bug and hinders discussions of applications but lots of councils still use that system.


Not a bug at all, you just need to provide the link to the place where people can agree to sell their soul for a peek at the document.
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby tim-b » 22 Aug 2020, 6:47am

Hi
The officer's report states 24% ramblers, bikers and fishermen. The application also uses "bike"
Maybe an additional proportion of pedal cyclists and women who fish? :) Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit, although there is one locally to me who cycles towing a trailer
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby Oldjohnw » 22 Aug 2020, 7:17am

tim-b wrote:Hi
The officer's report states 24% ramblers, bikers and fishermen. The application also uses "bike"
Maybe an additional proportion of pedal cyclists and women who fish? :) Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit, although there is one locally to me who cycles towing a trailer
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I fly fish and often do so by bike, 18 miles each way to a stillwater. I have a choice of three. The river is a mile away. I am a minimalist angler.
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"

Postby PH » 22 Aug 2020, 8:18am

tim-b wrote:Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit

Indeed, but this is already an angler's destination, so I'd assume their parking to be a different matter. The proposal isn't likely to increase the traffic from anglers.
On the face of it, it seems an extraordinary rejection, hopefully it will be appealed and given more consideration.