Close pass policing

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Close pass policing

Postby xerxes » 26 Aug 2020, 10:41am

Has anything like this been done in other areas of the country? https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/drivers-spoken-to-in-wick-cycle-operation-210308/

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby greyingbeard » 26 Aug 2020, 10:48am

where I live the "very busy" plod ignore parking on zebra crossings, dont respond to violence, left, vandalism, I doubt theyve got time to get off their bots and make more form filling.

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby mjr » 26 Aug 2020, 11:16am

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby thirdcrank » 26 Aug 2020, 1:52pm

Here in Leeds we have some roadside message screens operated by the council. I think the main intention is to warn of serious incidents, but as often as not we have safety messages. A couple of weeks ago there was one distracting drivers with a warning not to be distracted by using mobile phones at the wheel.

By coincidence, the message for today is

TO PASS A BIKE GIVE 1.5 METRES OR WAIT.


PS Of the threads linked above, this is the one that dealt with the fundraising for the mats and some of the subsequent publicity

viewtopic.php?p=1106645#p1106645

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby al_yrpal » 26 Aug 2020, 2:21pm

Until the Highway Code precedes the close passing instruction with a 'MUST' nothing will change...

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby thirdcrank » 26 Aug 2020, 3:24pm

For anybody who has missed the point, a change from should to must requires more than a couple of keystrokes on a wordprocessor and for anybody who doesn't understand that point should = advice while must = it's a statutory requirement. Therefore, a law must be passed or amended before the change can occur.

On the positive side, HC advice (should) can be used in both criminal and civil proceedings. IMO a biggy here is that if little attention is paid to crashing into people, it's unlikely much will happen about getting too close nomatter how the HC expresses it.

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby Cyril Haearn » 26 Aug 2020, 6:02pm

thirdcrank wrote:Here in Leeds we have some roadside message screens operated by the council. I think the main intention is to warn of serious incidents, but as often as not we have safety messages. A couple of weeks ago there was one distracting drivers with a warning not to be distracted by using mobile phones at the wheel.

By coincidence, the message for today is

TO PASS A BIKE GIVE 1.5 METRES OR WAIT.

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby TrevA » 26 Aug 2020, 6:48pm

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Re: Close pass policing

Postby thirdcrank » 26 Aug 2020, 7:22pm

I've just remembered the recent inspection of roads policing which attracted little interest on here.

viewtopic.php?p=1508569#p1508569

The West Midlands Police mat initiative Operation Close Pass is mentioned (p48) but it's just a makeweight.

https://www.west-midlands.police.uk/you ... ss-cycling