LCWIPS

[Tyre Lady]

@Squeaker - thanks so much. It is a really good LCWIPs.

I have put an idea out via the resident's local FB group to test the waters with the general public. Need to be able to squash the haters who feel the car should be put first and that cyclist should pay tax. Farage has been putting out anti-cyclist articles which is creating fear that car drivers will lose control, cyclist are freeloaders etc.

Did your action group deal with this type of negativity?

[squeaker]

Did your action group deal with this type of negativity?

Not that I'm aware of (but I didn't attend all the meetings ). Previous experiences with a failed attempt at 20mph for Worthing did identify taxi drivers and Compass Bus Co. as significant obstacles, so that element may well come to the fore if any significant motor road changes get to the design stage.
Recent experiences with the Upper Shoreham Road emergency cycle lanes did not bode well for the democratic process should any road space (especially parking space) be given over to cycling (Saga here.)

On the positive side, the guys at Shoreham-By-Cycle (geddit?) did an ace PR job, even getting on the DfT's Active Travel promo

[Tyre Lady]

@Squeaker - thank you so much. These are really useful documents.

Thank you for your help

R-) xx

[MikeF]

Why do you think it lacks ambition?

I tend to apply an "encourage" v "enable" test. There's an awful lot in ABC's LCWIP about encouraging active travel and very little about enabling it.

Perhaps I'm being overly cynical, my judgement is clouded by seeing the results of decades of past encouragement and those results have not been good.

The LCWIP does at least have some metrics suggesting a target of doubling the proportion of journeys made by cycle by 2029. If they achieve it that would still be only 4% of all journeys.

Yes, indeed. Many councils like to "encourage" cycling as a box ticking exercise. It absolves them of having to actually "enable" anything.
In general people don't need encouragement to cycle. They just want somewhere where they feel confident to be able travel by cycle.

[MikeF]

As a member of the Adur & Worthing Cycling and Walking Action Group I 'assisted' in the production of the A&W LCWIP, despite not living in A&W (I used to commute through it quite a lot.) I thought Sustrans did a good job, and was impressed by the direct involvement of the council leader in the Action Group.
This contrasts significantly with the Horsham LCWIP (the district I live in) where I have been underwhelmed by WSP's efforts (but then I live 16 miles from Horsham town...). You may note that the identified routes in the Horsham plan do not join up

With WSCC's current opposition to any cycling schemes I don't think anything will happen.
Seems to be two different extremes of LCWIPs here, WSP''s is minimalist whilst in contrast, in my view, Sustrans' is verbose in the extreme, lacks positivity and needs to be restructured in presentation to have impact.

[Tyre Lady]

Why do you think it lacks ambition?

I tend to apply an "encourage" v "enable" test. There's an awful lot in ABC's LCWIP about encouraging active travel and very little about enabling it.

Perhaps I'm being overly cynical, my judgement is clouded by seeing the results of decades of past encouragement and those results have not been good.

The LCWIP does at least have some metrics suggesting a target of doubling the proportion of journeys made by cycle by 2029. If they achieve it that would still be only 4% of all journeys.

Yes, indeed. Many councils like to "encourage" cycling as a box ticking exercise. It absolves them of having to actually "enable" anything.
In general people don't need encouragement to cycle. They just want somewhere where they feel confident to be able travel by cycle.

We will keep Runnymede on board with the "enabling"

@Squeaker - just had a meeting with them and showed them your links. All gave thumbs up and provided more direction where we are going. So thank you very much for those links

[gaz]

https://tunbridgewells.gov.uk/__data/as ... h-2021.pdf
https://tunbridgewells.gov.uk/__data/as ... Report.pdf

[mjr]

Our group's rather rushed response to our local one: http://www.klwnbug.co.uk/2021/04/08/res ... plan-2021/

What is the average cost per mile of cycleways now?

[MikeF]

https://tunbridgewells.gov.uk/__data/as ... h-2021.pdf
https://tunbridgewells.gov.uk/__data/as ... Report.pdf

I've not seen that. I need to look more closely