Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
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Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Someone in Runcorn has decided the runcorn covid popup cycleway was not up to scratch so has made some changes.
From this:
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/151142/
To this:
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/164709/
and more of a similar ilk.
From this:
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/151142/
To this:
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/164709/
and more of a similar ilk.
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Local authorities *love* to cut-up really good cycleways.
Rule 1 of Malicious Autocratic Design:
Cut it up: If there is a good segregated direct and long cycleway then cut it up by changing priorities and putting vehicles across it.
Examples:
1) Cranebridge, Clay Farm
2) Oxford Marston Ferry Road, Swann school junction
Rule 1 of Malicious Autocratic Design:
Cut it up: If there is a good segregated direct and long cycleway then cut it up by changing priorities and putting vehicles across it.
Examples:
1) Cranebridge, Clay Farm
2) Oxford Marston Ferry Road, Swann school junction
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Hi all, Reaching the Runcorn Expressway will kill of cycling numbers! I only ever felt safe in the Merseyside Wheelers chain-gang, safety in mass numbers.
Highways England love to concentrate on upping the traffic flow, even if it kills vulnerable group members! MM
Highways England love to concentrate on upping the traffic flow, even if it kills vulnerable group members! MM
Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Pete Owens wrote:Someone in Runcorn has decided the runcorn covid popup cycleway was not up to scratch so has made some changes.
From this:
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/151142/
To this:
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/164709/
and more of a similar ilk.
Could you email the highways dept responsible and challenge the error? Seeing what flavour of bull plop they shovel out to justify ignoring s10.5 of LTN 1/20 may help prepare us for when other highways officers learn it. If they will not give the cyclists priority, they are meant to add traffic lights or grade separation!
MJR, mostly pedalling 3-speed roadsters. KL+West Norfolk BUG incl social easy rides http://www.klwnbug.co.uk
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
mjr wrote:Could you email the highways dept responsible and challenge the error? Seeing what flavour of bull plop they shovel out to justify ignoring s10.5 of LTN 1/20 may help prepare us for when other highways officers learn it. If they will not give the cyclists priority, they are meant to add traffic lights or grade separation!
Do you have a link to the areas that you've quoted, just want to read up about them.
Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
chris_suffolk wrote:mjr wrote:Could you email the highways dept responsible and challenge the error? Seeing what flavour of bull plop they shovel out to justify ignoring s10.5 of LTN 1/20 may help prepare us for when other highways officers learn it. If they will not give the cyclists priority, they are meant to add traffic lights or grade separation!
Do you have a link to the areas that you've quoted, just want to read up about them.
Do you mean https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... gn-ltn-120 ?
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Are these covid lanes still in existence? West Sussex CC couldn't wait to rip them up almost as quickly as they had been put in place. According to councillor Roger Elkins They aren't necessary now, as they've served their purpose!
But WSCC has A Walking and Cycling Strategy which states
"To make cycling and walking the natural choice for shorter journeys (such as journeys to school), or as part of a longer journey"
But WSCC has A Walking and Cycling Strategy which states
"To make cycling and walking the natural choice for shorter journeys (such as journeys to school), or as part of a longer journey"
"It takes a genius to spot the obvious" - my old physics master.
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Unfortunately still there - the photo was taken on Monday
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Why unfortunately - because of the bad modification? Have you not seen the campaign to keep the Shoreham one in particular? Howls of protest from motorheads about the proposed Brighton one further along that road.Pete Owens wrote:Unfortunately still there - the photo was taken on Monday
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Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Taking 2-way cycle paths across priority junctions increases the risk of collision by a factor oif ten. It is a fundamentally bad idea if you have the sightest concern for the safety of cyclists and is not solved by minior design tweaks such as changing priorities. And that is not actually the worst part of it. A bit further on you come to this:
and yes, that is still meant to be a 2-way facility.
and yes, that is still meant to be a 2-way facility.
Re: Runcorn updates its covid cycleway.
Pete Owens wrote:Taking 2-way cycle paths across priority junctions increases the risk of collision by a factor oif ten.
Are you still relying on that 1980s research for that figure?
The vockups should be fixed, not the space given back to motorists.
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