Petition for a public inquiry into prison plans

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Steady rider
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Petition for a public inquiry into prison plans

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Starting a clean approach to a petition and providing supportive evidence. Previous info provided at viewtopic.php?f=6&t=128000

A petition asking for a public inquiry into the plans for a Category C mega prison at Full Sutton.

The planned prison has several serious problems that will be harmful to the environment.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/597149

The petition mentions it will likely result in about 20,000 miles of driving per day.

It will be harmful to the area with the massive visual impact of 6 houseblocks each about 14-16m high profile and 70m wide.

The whole process of local authorities dealing with major prison plans has resulted in many issues and the public and planning committee members are left with thousands of pages of documents that often require specialist knowledge to appreciate fully. The planning committee members may have little idea or what is desirable in the design, location and size of a prison. A public inquiry is needed to properly assess the merits and hear from many objectors.
mumbojumbo
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I suppose without the high fences you would have escapees taking washing off the line, stealing push-bikes in a bid for freedom.New builds are one good reason to live in inner-city areas and not on rural flange.
Jdsk
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Re: Petition for a public inquiry into prison plans

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Shouldn't that be "into"?

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The public inquiry would remove all walls and lay on free buses to train station.
Steady rider
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Re: Petition for a public inquiry into prison plans

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Yes it needs changing to 'into', hopefully it should be corrected before too long.
The reasons listed are;
A public inquiry is needed because:
1) In total, about 1000 trips per day are expected from staff and visitors that may result in about 20,000 miles of driving per day, no Environmental Impact Assessment was provided.
2) Serious disputes have occurred regarding claims made in support of the prison plans.
3) The size and scale have resulted in thousands of pages of information/opinions, a public inquiry is therefore needed to consider it properly.
4) The prison plans may be harmful to the community due to extra delays for emergency vehicles, increased risk to pedestrians and cyclists, 6 four-storey buildings having a major visual impact and camouflaging trees taking years to grow.
Basically it was a very poor choice of location, would in fact be harmful and a public inquiry would show this to be the case. The main problem being a public inquiry has to come from the government and it is their submission for the prison.
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Is there any precedent for a Public Enquiry being held in relation to the siting of a prison?
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Re: Petition for a public inquiry into prison plans

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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cr ... ry-1755747

I am unsure about if prison plans have been subject to public inquiries, i think the Full Sutton high security had a public inquiry.

The planning system changed allowing prisons to come under the normal planning process.
The change result in local authorities planning committees deciding on a planning application. The local authority planning committee in the East Riding is mainly Conservative members, they voted in favour previously. If they voted against they would have been voting against their own governments plans and subject to peer pressure. The local MP is also Conserative so would he be well placed to fight or highlight failings/misleading aspects or incorrect statements supporting is own governments plans? The Minister for Justice could call a public inquiry into plans the MoJ have put forward, but he is under pressure to deliver policy and would he or she stay in the post?

The MoJ made misleading claims and the process was not to a suitable standard. https://stamfordbridgebypass.wordpress.com/blog/

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