Car liberty not licence

gar

Car liberty not licence

Postby gar » 12 Nov 2005, 9:52am

Helen's interesting remark re car licence:
The only people with a legal right to use the roads are pedestrians, cyclists and horseriders. Motorists are allowed to use roads under licence.

may be slightly wide of the mark but very interesting in its thought about the use of words,
ie that a motorist does not have the FREEDOM or LIBERTY to use the roads but merely a
Licence something the three other classes of user do not need!

I know that they do have the right to use the roads with a licence, but I suspect that it is a play on words, a very effective one nonetheless.

I wonder when the car road fund licence was first introduced, whether it was back in the days
of the flag carrying walkers in front of the horseless carriage? If it was, then the meaning of the word is exactly what it says it is.... a licence giving a right to use the road for a certain limited period of time.

Unofrtunately the rights of the licence holder whilst he has got it are in infinite excess
of the rights of the three other classes of user,
which is frequently the case in modern law.

If a pedestrian knocked down and killed another pedestrian it would be manslaughter; if a licence holder does the same using his licence it is an accident.

Perhaps a licence holder should pay an up front fee of several thousand pounds for his first licence, refundable at the end of his driving career, whether his own choice,or that of a judge .... refundable to any victim along the
way, and with no further right to hold such a licence in the latter instance.

The government has become keen on such answers to problems of recompense through natural justice, and economic ones too.

If the driver thought he would lose £20,000
if he knocked somebody down, which would otherwise go to his bank account when he
needed it most, he would be far less likely to
transgress, especially against those whom Helen points out have a natural Right to the road without payment of any sort.

Somebody who became impecunious for any reason would then be able to say "Well I've got my car licence which I can surrender and get £20,000 for, so I will just have to give up driving!"

In the same way as the Milk quota for farmers it could be inflation proofed to provide a useful nest egg and a flat rate over the years for newcomers to the scheme, and a bigger loss to
traffic law transgressors.

It would be very effective indeed.

That SHOULD be the measure of the licence even now but it is quite the opposite.
Let's mention it to Ken of the London Mayor fame. That is his kind of solution!

gar

Re:Car liberty not licence

Postby gar » 12 Nov 2005, 10:04am

Thus a licence holder would not look at a free user and say "Kill him!" but with respect say "There is a free user of the roads. He has a right to do so. I only have a licence, which I shall lose if I don't
respect his right.

It would help very much to concentrate the mind of the motorist on his driving responsibilities.

You could take out a mortgage to pay for the licence along with the car in the first instance at the age 18-21.

The road fund licence would have two parts.
The life licence and the vehicle licence, the former passing from one car to the next and the latter depending on the mortgaged asset of the
former.

or so. The first opportunity to save!

PHIL

Re:Car liberty not licence

Postby PHIL » 16 Nov 2005, 5:25pm

What a load of utter tosh, theres more chance of me laying an egg! Replying to your own posts is a bit sad too.

gar

Re:Car liberty not licence

Postby gar » 16 Nov 2005, 5:27pm

<table cellSpacing='1' cellPadding='5' bgColor='#CECFCE' border='0'> <tr bgColor='#FFFFFF'> <td width='15%'><strong>AUTHOR</strong></td> <td width='85%' bgColor='#FFFFFF'><strong>testing again</strong></td> </tr> <tr bgColor='#F0F0F0'> <td vAlign='top' width='15%'><strong>mel</strong>
Posted:Tuesday, 01 February 2005 22:44</td> <td vAlign='top' bgColor='#F0F0F0' width='85%'><font size=+1 face="Comic Sans MS" font color="Blue">Just Testing</font> </td> </tr></table>
<font size=+2 face="Comic Sans MS" font color="Red"> I really must protest Mel at the way you have written that Test in blue. It just won't do between here and Ttimbuctoo, woo hoo hoo</font>

gar

Re:Car liberty not licence

Postby gar » 16 Nov 2005, 5:28pm

<tr bgColor='#FFFFFF'> <td width='15%'><strong>AUTHOR</strong></td> <td width='85%' bgColor='#FFFFFF'><strong>testing again</strong></td> </tr> <tr bgColor='#F0F0F0'> <td vAlign='top' width='15%'><strong>mel</strong>
Posted:Tuesday, 01 February 2005 22:44</td> <td vAlign='top' bgColor='#F0F0F0' width='85%'><font size=+1 face="Comic Sans MS" font color="Blue">Just Testing</font> </td> </tr></table>

gar

Re:Car liberty not licence

Postby gar » 16 Nov 2005, 5:29pm

<font size=+5 face="Comic Sans MS" font color="Blue">Just Testing</font> </td> </tr>

gar

Re:Car liberty not licence

Postby gar » 16 Nov 2005, 5:30pm

<font size=+7 face="Comic Sans MS" font color="Blue">Matter of opinion</font> </td> </tr>