Hampshire's misguided campaign

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Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby keepontriking » 10 Apr 2013, 11:17am

Hampshire County Council have amended DfT material to show closer cycle/car interaction.
When will they get it right.
Meanwhile more cyclists get killed.

http://liveablewhitchurch.blogspot.co.u ... close.html

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby Mr. Viking » 10 Apr 2013, 11:32am

I'm sure they aren't making a recommendation for road usage in their poster, surely the bike and the car are side by side to show that they are equal. Not sure why they drew the road markings in on the right hand side though.

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby Mark1978 » 10 Apr 2013, 11:43am

It's just the person who made the poster, and the person who signed it off is probably equally clueless.

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby RickH » 10 Apr 2013, 5:04pm

I think it is stretching things to portray it as a guide to the space you should leave between bikes and cars unless you also want to suggest that Hampshire are recommending switching to driving on the right (or alternatively that everyone will have to go backwards)! :twisted:

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby keepontriking » 10 Apr 2013, 5:22pm

RickH wrote:I think it is stretching things to portray it as a guide to the space you should leave between bikes and cars unless you also want to suggest that Hampshire are recommending switching to driving on the right (or alternatively that everyone will have to go backwards)! :twisted:


There is a piece about cyclists overtaking parked cars, and not being in the door zone, which they do on the right, but I guess you didn't read that far.

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby RickH » 10 Apr 2013, 6:34pm

keepontriking wrote:
RickH wrote:I think it is stretching things to portray it as a guide to the space you should leave between bikes and cars unless you also want to suggest that Hampshire are recommending switching to driving on the right (or alternatively that everyone will have to go backwards)! :twisted:


There is a piece about cyclists overtaking parked cars, and not being in the door zone, which they do on the right, but I guess you didn't read that far.

Yes I did see it - but that is on the blog, that you linked to, commenting on what Hampshire had produced rather than actually part of it. This topic is therefore commenting on comments rather than directly on what Hampshire are doing. I've not yet found anything direct from Hampshire council (but haven't looked that hard so far only on the council website).

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby keepontriking » 10 Apr 2013, 7:08pm

Mark1978 wrote:It's just the person who made the poster, and the person who signed it off is probably equally clueless.


Yep. There needs to be much more care from road safety 'experts' in the material they produce.
Probably this was just thrown together without any thought as to what some could interpret it as promoting as acceptable practice.
Never mind, it will tick another box and allow another Pat-Our-Backs press release. :roll:

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby Tonyf33 » 10 Apr 2013, 9:08pm

People understand/interpret what they see in pictures/diagrams a whole lot more easier than they do text, hence why road signs are made such. I think it would be very very easy for a large portion of people to intepret that sign in the 'wrong' way. That the projection is meant to be about equal footing etc doesn't come over in the slightest.
What is does suggest is that the driver or cyclist is on the wrong side for real world road experiences and that the vicinity of the car to the bike is acceptable (which it isn't)
Good intention, very very poor delivery as per normal.

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby gaz » 10 Apr 2013, 10:45pm

keepontriking wrote:Hampshire County Council have amended DfT material to show closer cycle/car interaction.


Here's the DfT original: http://think.direct.gov.uk/assets/pdf/1 ... poster.pdf

I am inclined to agree that something's been lost in translation, I also note a magic hat seems to have been gained as well. :roll:
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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby Ellieb » 10 Apr 2013, 11:33pm

Yes. & I notice the car doesn't have any mirrors. What sort of message does that send?

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby Tonyf33 » 11 Apr 2013, 12:09am

Ellieb wrote:Yes. & I notice the car doesn't have any mirrors. What sort of message does that send?

That the people who designed it think that all cyclists wear helmets or it's another push to show what is the 'norm' and/or some cockmamy tosh that is politically correct.
A person on a bicycle is easy to digest visiually on signs without a helmet, it is completely surperflous to the message but adds fuel to the fire.

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Re: Hampshire's misguided campaign

Postby MikeF » 17 Apr 2013, 7:48pm

gaz wrote:
keepontriking wrote:Hampshire County Council have amended DfT material to show closer cycle/car interaction.


Here's the DfT original: http://think.direct.gov.uk/assets/pdf/1 ... poster.pdf

I am inclined to agree that something's been lost in translation, I also note a magic hat seems to have been gained as well. :roll:

I agree. The original poster conveys a different message. :roll:
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