Bmblbzzz wrote:Also great for encouraging head-on confrontations as drivers of larger vehicles use their bulk to force others out of their way.
Especially cyclists
Bmblbzzz wrote:Also great for encouraging head-on confrontations as drivers of larger vehicles use their bulk to force others out of their way.
Wanlock Dod wrote:I expect that for most drivers their main concern is not “blocking” the road, and so impending the progress of other motorists. Plenty of residential streets with a decent pavement on each side and in principle a road wide enough for two large cars to pass easily have been reduced to parking right the way down the pavement at both sides and a central roadway which is only wide enough for a single vehicle. I think you’ll find it’s called progress...
kwackers wrote:Wanlock Dod wrote:I expect that for most drivers their main concern is not “blocking” the road, and so impending the progress of other motorists.
Nah.
Folk park on the pavements because that's what they do. [...]
mjr wrote:kwackers wrote:Wanlock Dod wrote:I expect that for most drivers their main concern is not “blocking” the road, and so impending the progress of other motorists.
Nah.
Folk park on the pavements because that's what they do. [...]
The road in my picture is maybe 15m across at the point where the tractor parked. It could probably park in the middle of the road and cars could pass either side. I'm with kwackers - it's just an antisocial habit.
Patrickpioneer wrote:One of my pet hates is people who park on the pavement forcing me to walk in the road, it comes across to me as 'my car is more important than your life' sort of attitude. I used to think it was illegal to park on the pavement but its not in a lot of circumstances, The world is ruled by tin boxes on rubber wheels.
Pat
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q387.htm
Parking on the pavement is not illegal because driving on the pavement IS. How else do they get there? Are they lifted on by invisible cranes? The law is the same article that is so often quoted about pavement cycling.Patrickpioneer wrote:I used to think it was illegal to park on the pavement but its not in a lot of circumstances,
pwa wrote:I was trying to think of a place where some degree of pavement parking might have some possible justification, and I decided on this housing estate.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5801135 ... 6?hl=en-GB
Now I'm not excusing every instance of pavement parking you can see on Streetview there, but the cameras were there at a quiet time of day when a lot of folk are at work so later in the day it becomes harder to park. The roads are very narrow, often too narrow for a vehicle to park entirely on the road without forcing passing traffic to mount the pavement. There are legitimate off-road parking places, but too few at times when most people are at home. The only solution that would work would be removing the segregation (i.e. the footway) and making the whole carriageway into a shared use space with a very low speed limit. And I think that might work well. Traffic already moves around there slowly. The streets are purely residential, with no through traffic. Any thoughts?
kwackers wrote:.........For 95% it's nothing other than habit and as we allow more and more folk to get away with it then it becomes more and more entrenched.
kwackers wrote:pwa wrote:I was trying to think of a place where some degree of pavement parking might have some possible justification, and I decided on this housing estate.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5801135 ... 6?hl=en-GB
Now I'm not excusing every instance of pavement parking you can see on Streetview there, but the cameras were there at a quiet time of day when a lot of folk are at work so later in the day it becomes harder to park. The roads are very narrow, often too narrow for a vehicle to park entirely on the road without forcing passing traffic to mount the pavement. There are legitimate off-road parking places, but too few at times when most people are at home. The only solution that would work would be removing the segregation (i.e. the footway) and making the whole carriageway into a shared use space with a very low speed limit. And I think that might work well. Traffic already moves around there slowly. The streets are purely residential, with no through traffic. Any thoughts?
In some cases it is justified-ish.
But you know what I'd do in cases where we want to allow it? Remove the pavement completely and make the road shared space. 5mph limit, pedestrians have absolute right of way no questions asked.
If you think about it that's what you've done anyway, if cars are on the pavement and ped's having to use the road why bother with pavements?