Is the bicycle a political object?

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby tb » 31 May 2015, 12:15am

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby Tasker » 1 Jun 2015, 6:21pm

horizon: I was very rude to you publicly so in return this is a public apology.

In essence, I agree with what you're saying, however I still stay with my fundamental view which is that we politicice (spelling?) riding our bikes at our peril. I won't allow any political creed to use me on my bike for it's own selfish uses and I respectfully suggest neither should any other bike owner. Rather, we use them.

Once again - I apologise for my initial response to your thought provoking post.

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby Bicycler » 1 Jun 2015, 8:34pm

Tasker wrote:In essence, I agree with what you're saying, however I still stay with my fundamental view which is that we politicice (spelling?) riding our bikes at our peril. I won't allow any political creed to use me on my bike for it's own selfish uses and I respectfully suggest neither should any other bike owner. Rather, we use them.

+1 it is really unhelpful.
Oh, and both 'politicize' and 'politicise' are correct in British English. Choose '-ise' endings if you don't wish to be criticized ( :wink: ) by misinformed pedants.

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby Tasker » 1 Jun 2015, 10:34pm

Bicycler wrote:
Tasker wrote:In essence, I agree with what you're saying, however I still stay with my fundamental view which is that we politicice (spelling?) riding our bikes at our peril. I won't allow any political creed to use me on my bike for it's own selfish uses and I respectfully suggest neither should any other bike owner. Rather, we use them.

+1 it is really unhelpful.
Oh, and both 'politicize' and 'politicise' are correct in British English. Choose '-ise' endings if you don't wish to be criticized ( :wink: ) by misinformed pedants.


Thanks for the baffling English lesson. Do you actually own and ride a bike yourself?

My apology to Horison still stands. Yer little T**t . Over and out.

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby Bicycler » 2 Jun 2015, 1:19pm

I'm sorry but I think you misunderstood me. I was agreeing wholeheartedly with your point that we should resist attempts to politicise the bicycle. Quoting someone and commenting "+1" means that you agree with what they have said.

You asked how to spell politicise so I provided the two accepted spellings. Did I do something untoward?

Yes, I ride a bike. The clue is in the name. I also own more than one. Though I am not sure why either of those things should affect my entitlement to agree with you or answer your spelling query.

Insults and thinly veiled swearing are against the rules of the forum. I kindly request that you engage with me civilly or not at all.

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby Tasker » 7 Jun 2015, 6:38pm

Bicycler wrote:I'm sorry but I think you misunderstood me. I was agreeing wholeheartedly with your point that we should resist attempts to politicise the bicycle. Quoting someone and commenting "+1" means that you agree with what they have said.

You asked how to spell politicise so I provided the two accepted spellings. Did I do something untoward?

Yes, I ride a bike. The clue is in the name. I also own more than one. Though I am not sure why either of those things should affect my entitlement to agree with you or answer your spelling query.

Insults and thinly veiled swearing are against the rules of the forum. I kindly request that you engage with me civilly or not at all.



I feel so stupid that I didn't take the time to read/reread your post before I posted Sorry. I tend to get out of my pram... I shouldn't have snapped your head off like that and the fact that you didn't respond in kind marks you above me.

I feel so stupid that I didn't take the time to read/reread your post before I posted. I'm relived and encouraged that you agree that politising/politizing - oh no ! Not that surely? non word again!

Another thought: 'Cycling' - is dangerous. It is. And getting more so. Calling getting on a bike 'Cycling' is what makes it so much more dangerous

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby horizon » 8 Jun 2015, 11:03am

I've been having thoughts that maybe political "symbol" is more appropriate than political "object". It also removes the debate from anyone's bike in particular.

Jus also to add as well that my post poses the question "Is it?" not "Should it be?".
When the pestilence strikes from the East, go far and breathe the cold air deeply. Ignore the sage, stay not indoors. Ho Ri Zon 12th Century Chinese philosopher

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby bovlomov » 8 Jun 2015, 11:17am

horizon wrote:I've been having thoughts that maybe political "symbol" is more appropriate than political "object".

Also, 'political' is often read as 'party political'. That is: I spit on your Liberal Democrat roller skates from the window of my Socialist Workers Party trolleybus!

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Re: Is the bicycle a political object?

Postby Bicycler » 8 Jun 2015, 1:17pm

Tasker, no worries. Misunderstandings happen. No harm done :)

Horizon, yes, 'symbol' shifts the debate slightly. I don't doubt that, to some, the bicycle is a political symbol. I still don't think that we can generalise and say that riding a bike is necessarily a political act and the bicycle necessarily a political symbol. It can be these things but not always.