I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

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I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 10 Jul 2018, 11:39pm

Hi,
Out today and I spy a roadie, they are fair game when I am training on my skip trainer, If I can catch them they are going too slow :mrgreen:
Had to put on more speed up hill and was just passing when.......................he tried to go right :o
Lucky he saw me and I apologised for not warning him :oops: , he apologised for not indicating.
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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby Moodyman1 » 11 Jul 2018, 1:05am

Being slow up hills, I'm often overtaken by others. On the commute last week I cleared my throat and was on the cusp of releasing the contents to my right, when I noticed another two wheeler out of my peripheral vision.

I told him he was lucky I do frequent shoulder checks otherwise he'd have had a face wash. He thanked me for being observant and said he will try and whistle/cough the next time he's overtaking another cyclist uphill.

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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby foxyrider » 11 Jul 2018, 11:10am

You'd need to be going damn slow for me to overtake going uphill!
Convention? what's that then?

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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby Vorpal » 11 Jul 2018, 12:43pm

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Out today and I spy a roadie, they are fair game when I am training on my skip trainer, If I can catch them they are going too slow :mrgreen:
Had to put on more speed up hill and was just passing when.......................he tried to go right :o
Lucky he saw me and I apologised for not warning him :oops: , he apologised for not indicating.

Was it at a junction? If so, the Highway code* says not to overtake at a junction.

Highway Code wrote:Rule 167

DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
•approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
...


It doesn't say you 'MUST NOT', so it's not an absolute, but it's likely that if there had been an incident, you could be considered at fault.

Not blaming you. I try to learn something from such incidents.

* https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway ... 159-to-203
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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby Bmblbzzz » 11 Jul 2018, 1:17pm

Moodyman1 wrote:Being slow up hills, I'm often overtaken by others. On the commute last week I cleared my throat and was on the cusp of releasing the contents to my right, when I noticed another two wheeler out of my peripheral vision.

I told him he was lucky I do frequent shoulder checks otherwise he'd have had a face wash. He thanked me for being observant and said he will try and whistle/cough the next time he's overtaking another cyclist uphill.

I wouldn't say he was "lucky". Spitting without checking around you would be rather inconsiderate.

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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 11 Jul 2018, 3:06pm

Hi,
He was going to turn left from a lane with no markings into a "T" junction, but I only realised this when he moved further across
the lane (two way with hedges no pavement, no road markings, is a lane in my world) which was narrow enough not to warrant centre white line.
I knew the junction was there just assumed he was going straight on, my mistake, I will be more considerate in future.
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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby gbnz » 11 Jul 2018, 8:38pm

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Out today and I spy a roadie, they are fair game when I am training on my skip trainer.


Have to admit there's something about the roadie, clad in lycra,often pot bellied, occasionally carbon fibre mounted which makes it impossible not to overtake :wink:

Though wished I hadn't done yesterday; 25litre ortlieb stuffed with weekly shopping, 16 miles still to go, roadie behind me for a good 3-4 miles! Had to work at staying in front :(

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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 11 Jul 2018, 9:44pm

Hi,
He was moving a bit quicker than me, bare bike no accessories looked leaner than me too.
Me 60 Years, 25 kg bike, double pannier rucksack :mrgreen:
It happens :)
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Re: I Need To Ping Slower Roadies, Incident One

Postby The utility cyclist » 11 Jul 2018, 10:04pm

Vorpal wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Out today and I spy a roadie, they are fair game when I am training on my skip trainer, If I can catch them they are going too slow :mrgreen:
Had to put on more speed up hill and was just passing when.......................he tried to go right :o
Lucky he saw me and I apologised for not warning him :oops: , he apologised for not indicating.

Was it at a junction? If so, the Highway code* says not to overtake at a junction.

Highway Code wrote:Rule 167

DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
•approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
...


It doesn't say you 'MUST NOT', so it's not an absolute, but it's likely that if there had been an incident, you could be considered at fault.

Not blaming you. I try to learn something from such incidents.

* https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway ... 159-to-203

This, if not able to see by road position then at the very least apply the same rules you'd want a motorvehicle to do when coming past. I think observations are a massive part as well as respect, I'd say patience but it shouldn't even be that, just respecting someone's safety and also as they are in front their priority, to me a signal is not required, I'd rather a person was in control of their bike than a signal, if in doubt, wait to see what unfolds, anticpate given the surroundings as humans are fairly predictable. There was a good video on YT I watched recently where the driver was spot on, didn't risk an overtake up a hill, the cyclist was in too close to the edge and wobbling a bit due to the steepness. Car came past and still they waited as there was a junction, cyclist then wobbled into it absolutely shot. Lovely bit of driving 8)

I overtook part group of what looked like a small club.casual group riders on Sunday who were single file, I moved out to the centre line as I didn't want any following vehicle to overtake me whilst I was doing same to others, this was on a straight road with no turnings/gates to fields etc. Hello's back and forth as I came past. I got up to the back of the front section a little way on but we were in a village with parked cars, mini roundabouts etc. I held off a few metres and to the right as I like to keep an open/wide position (they were a little too close to parked cars but anyway) I waited until it was clear to get past, called out to the back marker before moving wider of them by about 1.5-2m from elbow edge (not the stupid centre of the bike rubbish that CUK promotes :roll: ) into the opposite lane, shoulder check before pulling back in.