A9 Scotland

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A9 Scotland

Postby Elizabeth_S » 5 Dec 2015, 4:20pm

Just a warning, since the Forth road bridge has closed, the amount of traffic on the A9 has double, possibly trebled, and it is absolutely hideously bad even in a car; lots of lorries. Perth was at a stand still yesterday (someone told me) and I can't get out of the town I live in (bypassed by the A9) easily at times by car (I'll use the train or bike and train). I know some people cycle the A9 and use the Keir roundabout, but it is far worse now than ever with many drivers who are not used to the route. And it's going to push more cars onto other smaller roads around here. The good news is that Scotrail have added more carriages to trains very quickly (all things considered).

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby DaveP » 5 Dec 2015, 7:28pm

Excellent post.
It's not going to affect me at all. but it is very difficult to comprehend the scale of disruption that can be caused by road closures unless you are actually in the area.
So on behalf of all, Thank you!
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby bogmyrtle » 5 Dec 2015, 9:59pm

In a radio interview a transport representative when pushed by the interviewer wouldn't commit to agreeing that Scotrail would accept bikes on their trains during the disruption.
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Mick F » 6 Dec 2015, 9:33am

Cyclists use the A82 past Loch Lomond or the Old A90 to Perth. It's the fact that the Forth Road Bridge is out that'll cause the problem for cyclists.

I would think that the M90 is quiet coming up through Fife, but it'll be the A9 southwest of Perth that'll be horrendously busy from Stirling M9. A9 north of Perth should be as normal.

Am I wrong?
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Grandad » 6 Dec 2015, 11:11am

Cyclists use the A82 past Loch Lomond or the Old A90 to Perth.


Depends where they are coming from! End to enders are not the only cyclists in Scotland :)

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Elizabeth_S » 6 Dec 2015, 11:59am

I've heard since that the A90 Dundee to Perth was bad on Friday also and on to the M90, and that the Friarton bridge was at a standstill as were roads through Perth. So not just Perth southwards, and also the Broxden roundabout is a bottle neck in ordinary circumstances. We'll have to see how it settles down in the next few days.

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Mick F » 6 Dec 2015, 1:05pm

Grandad wrote:
Cyclists use the A82 past Loch Lomond or the Old A90 to Perth.
Depends where they are coming from! End to enders are not the only cyclists in Scotland :)
No, of course not.
Silly me. :oops:

I was looking at the whole thing as an End2End and not as a domestic cyclist.
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Brucey » 6 Dec 2015, 1:45pm

they are even talking about reinstating the ferry, I believe.

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Mick F » 6 Dec 2015, 4:30pm

The bridge opened in 1964 I think. We first drove over it in 1973 ......... only nine years later.
Mrs Mick F's parents stayed with us back then, and her father bought a book all about the building of this marvel of modern engineering.

It appears that the first member of the public to cross it was a sailor returning to Rosyth dockyard from a night out in Edinburgh. The roadway hadn't even been built and he shinned up and across the cables. :lol:

I wonder who will be the last member of the public to cross?
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Brucey » 6 Dec 2015, 5:24pm

this article shows where the cracks are;

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/pictures-2cm-crack-shut-forth-6956428

IMHO to close the bridge to pedestrian and cyclist traffic appears to be something of an overreaction.

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Mick F » 6 Dec 2015, 5:40pm

Just a little anecdote .........................

We lived up there - as I've often said.
One day, we walked across the bridge. Daughter1 maybe a year old in a pushchair - probably summer 1976? We took Sally the dog on a lead. We walked from our married quarters in Rosyth across the bridge to the service area/cafe on the south side and back.

Sally was VERY scared and very wary. In fact, I had to carry her for quite a while. Border collie!
Why?

She had a great difficulty with the vibration of the roadway and was very distressed. This was back 40years ago remember. Just imagine the traffic now in 2015. Just think how it's changed in 40 years. :shock:

The vibration was terrible back then as a pedestrian. Since then, I've only cycled across, and the vibration was only noticeable with heavy lorries passing, but as a pedestrian, any vehicle produces a vibration.
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Mick F » 6 Dec 2015, 5:45pm

PS:
Just been correct by Mrs Mick F. :oops:
Daughter1 was walking. It therefore must have been 1977 or 1978.
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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby macotheisles » 6 Dec 2015, 8:54pm

Oh mighty and imposing Forth Road Brig
Opened in the year of Our Lord, nineteen hundred and sixty four
Alas a crack in your steelwork both wide and big
Could send cyclists, cars and lorries and more
tumbling into the silv'ry Forth
with a mighty roar.


(William Topaz McBicycle)

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby Brucey » 6 Dec 2015, 11:02pm

I am tempted to ask where the other six or seven McGonagallesque verses are,

- but I rather fear the consequences.... :shock:

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Re: A9 Scotland

Postby macotheisles » 7 Dec 2015, 10:08pm

The rest of the poem gets published when either (a) the bridge collapses, or (b) The Royal Society for Cycling Poets presents me with my Genesis Equilibrium 931.