reohn2 wrote:Cheapest 3x10sp STI's are £140
Or £83 if you shop around
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano-s ... th-cables/
reohn2 wrote:Cheapest 3x10sp STI's are £140
reohn2 wrote:Psamathe
Cheapest 3x10sp STI's are £140
Cheapest 10sp d/t levers £50.
Triple front mech £20
Spa's own 28/38/48 c/set £35(choice of rings add about £30)
UN54 BB £15
PH wrote:reohn2 wrote:Cheapest 3x10sp STI's are £140
Or £83 if you shop around
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano-s ... th-cables/
Psamathe wrote:I am beginning to think it is the cost of the (STI) shifters that gets in the way for going to what I thought of as a "proper solution". And I keep coming back to wondering about bar end as so many cope/like them and I wonder if my reservations are nothing more than lack of experience with them.
Ian
Samuel D wrote:Every little helps, but a 2" change, even at the bottom of the range, is not going to change your life.
I think you should try what you have before spending potentially a lot of money changing things. I don’t tour with a heavy load, but my lowest gear is around 35". People have toured with far worse. Lower gears are nice, but if you don’t have them, simply pedal slower. Some people seem to have trouble with the discipline of doing this, instead continuing to spin at a ‘good’ cadence and riding themselves into the ground when the hill steepens. But if you learn not to fear a ‘bad’ cadence – and in truth its ills are exaggerated – you may not need very low gears.
Samuel D wrote:N...
On the topic of STIs, I ditched them for down-tube shifters and wish I’d done so long ago.....
Samuel D wrote:Not sure I follow, reohn2. I understand that an optimum cadence is optimum, but if you have to drop to 50 RPM in bottom gear, because you don’t have a low enough gear to pedal at 80 RPM, that may not be the end of the world. The pedalling forces would be higher than at 80 RPM at the same road speed (which may lead to knee discomfort but equally may not), but no more power would be required.
There will be an increase in perceived effort due to the biomechanical inefficiency of the sub-optimum cadence, but my point is that this loss of efficiency is not as severe as some people imagine. At the very least, everyone should try it for themselves!
Lower gears are better, but whether it’s worth buying a triple chainset, triple STIs, etc., for perhaps only a handful of hills a year is debatable. If you’re planning to tour the high mountains every summer until you kick the bucket, well, that’s a different story. The outlay would then make clear sense.
On the topic of STIs, I ditched them for down-tube shifters and wish I’d done so long ago. I was worried about losing their convenience but don’t even miss that aspect of STIs, and I gain simplicity, cost savings, weight savings, reliability, freedom to choose whatever brake levers I want (I went with the wonderful Shimano BL-R400), etc.
reohn2 wrote:PH wrote:reohn2 wrote:Cheapest 3x10sp STI's are £140
Or £83 if you shop around
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano-s ... th-cables/
WOW that's cheeeaaapppp
foxyrider wrote:Having just completed a camping trip of some 570km using gearing of 50/34 x 12/29 without any undue stress I certainly wouldn't really bother looking for silly low gears. So okay, I admit to stopping on a couple of steep climbs but after a brief rest I rode the climbs in full - no pushing! (last year I did a three week tour without using the 34 chainring at all - it was along the North Sea route in Holland/Gwermany/Denmark, a ride in the Alps would be a different matter!) Touring isn't a race so who cares if you do walk/push?
.........The main thing is to enjoy yourself.........
reohn2 wrote:Mick
You're the only person I've heard complain about them :?