Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby reohn2 » 8 Nov 2016, 12:04am

Vorpal wrote:Can you hear their accent when they are in their cars?

I've never been able to :?

And dress... jeans and t-shirts? Isn't that what most Africans wear?
Maybe our resident South African can answer that question for us? :wink:

I think he's made his case clear and I applaud him for it :)
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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby sapperadam » 8 Nov 2016, 11:49am

robing wrote:I think of all the driving behaviour excess speed is the most dangerous with mobile phone distraction a close second.


I like the way you phrased that - excess speed. There are times when I've been on the bike (and in the car, probably doing so myself) and cars have gone past clearly over the speed limit, but felt perfectly safe because it wasn't excessive for the conditions. Other times, I have felt unsafe with cars going past at speed but they were within the limit :shock:

IIRC I read something somewhere that said something like 80% of accidents where speed was a contributory factor, the speed was within the limit. I don't know how right that is, but I can see how that would be the case - go round a bend at 30 for instance and the limit is 40, but lose control because of taking the bend too fast - too many drivers see a limit as a target and this isn't helped by inappropriate limits on roads which could safely be faster.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby Invicta Tourist » 8 Nov 2016, 5:03pm

I find that it's the drivers who tow a trailer which is wider than their own vehicle which sometimes cause me concern by passing by far too close to me with the trailer.

If I'm out cycling on my own, most drivers pass by giving adequate clearance. In a cycling group, there are some drivers who try and squeeze past, then cut in close to the group leader when they should have had a greater awareness of an oncoming vehicle. Maybe I'm lucky, but down here in Kent, most drivers seem considerate.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby andrewk » 8 Nov 2016, 10:55pm

Heltor Chasca wrote:
Accent: also irrelevant. Can you hear people in their cars?

You meant black and you know it.


1. When I remonstrate with the bad driver about their driving I get to hear their accent.

2. I meant what I wrote, African. HC, you may wish me to have meant black and may wish to misrepresent me thus but that is nothing more than the usual ** spewed by those who attempt to shout down any negative comment by attempting to paint or twist it as racist.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby johntea » 8 Nov 2016, 11:48pm

Worst drivers in my area are private hire drivers and driving instructors

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby arnsider » 9 Nov 2016, 10:50am

The worst drivers by far are those that have no concept of handling their vehicle when it is spinning out of control or heading for a collision.
Those that actually risk these situations are interestingly, police and emergency service drivers.
The Police routinely risk calamity pursuing people who deliberately speed and flout road traffic law.
This is not to overly criticise them, but I think the police have often put apprehension above public safety and it has had tragic consequence on a number of occasions.
I know i am unpopular suggesting this, but would it not be better to just let escaping offenders alone rather than inciting them by pursuing them?
I think the best drivers must be PSV coach drivers.
I am not enamored of HGV drivers. Most are fine, but there is a hard core of idiots who drag the rest down.
Try driving at 62 mph in lane one on any motorway and you will appreciate where I am coming from.
Motor cyclists are a difficult question.
No doubt most are conscientious but there is a worrying element of total anarchy among them.
You only have to cycle in the Western Dales around Ingleton and Kirkby Lonsdale to realise just how murderous some of them are.
The Police seem powerless to stop excesses and there are regular serious accidents.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby pwa » 9 Nov 2016, 10:59am

The worst drivers are probably those who have been caught by the police, banned, caught driving again, banned again, but not locked up.

The best drivers are well rested people with no suppressed anger to release.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby broadway » 9 Nov 2016, 12:02pm

In my mainly urban/suburban cycling experience I can't really say that there is any one group that stands out as being best or worse.

If I was to pick qualities it would be considerate and confident. Considerate is self evident, but unless a driver is confident it is too easy to feel pressured into being doing something inconsiderate.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby Flinders » 10 Nov 2016, 8:49pm

Bonefishblues wrote:I do perhaps 60-70 motorway and dual carriageway miles every day (sadly).

I had a lorry pull out on me last week as described above. Your post prompted me to think about the last time it happened before that. I can't remember the previous time, tbh.

I do recall plenty of occasions when I have either moved over, speeded up, or slowed down to avoid conflict and facilitate a lorry moving out to overtake.


I drive less frequently, but longer distances - 200-300 miles in a day and sometimes more. It may also depend on time of day, and which M-ways. In my case, M6, A14 are the ones I use the most, followed by M1 and A1M, then M42, M40. The specific problem has been mostly, but not exclusively, going either North or South on the M6 between Thelwall Viaduct and Brum at peak morning times on weekdays. Very heavy traffic, lots of lorries, almost all tailgating each other.

I have a black car (not by choice)- in the past when I had a white or red one it happened less often , so that could be part of it too- the black car seems to suck lorries across their lane towards it for some reason even when the lorries stick to their lane; either an optical illusion due to the window design or its colour in some way.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby pwa » 11 Nov 2016, 9:43am

I heard something on the radio this morning about an undercover reporter getting a job delivering stuff for Amazon and experiencing pressure to drive dangerously in order to stick to a schedule that cannot be adhered to safely. Also something about drivers routinely driving for longer than the law allows.

I think this may have been a trailer for an upcoming programme, so watch out for it. BBC.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby Bonefishblues » 11 Nov 2016, 7:42pm

It was on Today prog and was an expose of what came across as a "rogue" delivery firm, contracting for Amazon. Amongst other things were calculated average hourly rates of £2-£3. It was on from about 8.40 or so.

Quite a short piece, and unsure about whether it trailed a longer programme, but it had that air.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby reohn2 » 11 Nov 2016, 8:19pm

There was a piece on the BBC 6 pm news about it.
TBH after being made aware of Amazon's treatment of warehouse staff some time ago,I can't say I'm surprised.
My Daughter and S in L's have had no end of trouble with Amazon screwing their internet business with the hoops they had to continually jump through,finally they stopped selling through them.
I would touch Amazon with the proverbial barge pole,the word shysters is a word that springs readily to mind,along with Sports Direct ,etc.

Sorry for the thread drift,as you were :)
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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby BigFoz » 14 Nov 2016, 8:32pm

Every vehicle driver believes they are the best, which is why they're (we're ? ) all rubbish

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby Bonefishblues » 14 Nov 2016, 8:39pm

BigFoz wrote:Every vehicle driver believes they are the best, which is why they're (we're ? ) all rubbish

No, I don't. I make mistakes and hope to keep learning because I appreciate I'm not as good as I would like to be.

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Re: Who are the best/worst drivers on the road?

Postby Elizabethsdad » 14 Nov 2016, 9:32pm

Right now DPD delivery drivers get my vote. Got an impatient horn blast from one tonight as I was taking primary through a pinch point who then proceeded to drive along side me shouting abuse at me for being on the road. I got the number plate and will making a complaint to the company although I expect from what I have heard about DPD they won't care in the slightest but it will be logged and if there is a repeat offence it can go straight to the police.