Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 25 Dec 2016, 8:38pm

Hi,
Was off on one of my longish day rides, going down Countisbury hill into Lynmouth, prone doing 50, transit van overtook so I sat up and dropped to 40, but then he decided it was too fast :? so I put me head down and cruised past :lol:
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Mick F » 25 Dec 2016, 8:54pm

On the long downhills, if the motor traffic could stay below the 30mph speed limit, I could freewheel past them easily.
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Redvee » 26 Dec 2016, 1:15am

A lot of cars want to overtake the cyclist in front of them but not the car in front that was slowing the cyclist up. There have been time where I've been keeping pace with a car in front doing 20mph when a gap opens up for a the car behind to overtake but then has to go at the same speed previously cause of the slow car in front of me. Why won't they make another overtake?

Here's one that didn't quite work out for the two drivers that attempted it.


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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Phil Fouracre » 26 Dec 2016, 9:41am

Wonderful driving. Best I had like that, was waiting in middle of the lane a few yards behind a stationary bus, when driver pulls up behind me a sounds his horn, ugh! Looked round to see him gesticulating at me to move over!!! Didn't bother to ask him to explain the logic of his actions, too gobsmacked :-)
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Bonefishblues » 26 Dec 2016, 10:39am

Redvee wrote:A lot of cars want to overtake the cyclist in front of them but not the car in front that was slowing the cyclist up. There have been time where I've been keeping pace with a car in front doing 20mph when a gap opens up for a the car behind to overtake but then has to go at the same speed previously cause of the slow car in front of me. Why won't they make another overtake?

Here's one that didn't quite work out for the two drivers that attempted it.


The syclist looks incidental to that particular driving error, or am I missing something?

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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Audax67 » 26 Dec 2016, 11:04am

Frequently happens at a roundabout near us, where German drivers get confused by the fact that what they call Weissenburg is Wissembourg in French.
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Phil Fouracre » 26 Dec 2016, 12:02pm

Bonefishblues wrote:
Redvee wrote:A lot of cars want to overtake the cyclist in front of them but not the car in front that was slowing the cyclist up. There have been time where I've been keeping pace with a car in front doing 20mph when a gap opens up for a the car behind to overtake but then has to go at the same speed previously cause of the slow car in front of me. Why won't they make another overtake?

Here's one that didn't quite work out for the two drivers that attempted it.


The syclist looks incidental to that particular driving error, or am I missing something?


Think you're right - looks absolutely nothing to do with the cyclist, probably didn't even notice him. Barely managed to notice the big green bus :-)
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby foxyrider » 26 Dec 2016, 12:53pm

Psamathe wrote:For me a related (but worse) problem is when those impatient following drivers overtake with insufficient visibility ahead and then end-up having to swerve in when they meet the oncoming vehicle they for some reason thought would not be there!. Was a very close thing (for me) last ride out when an inpatient Adenhams lorry must have been held up behind me for at least 5 seconds before deciding the delay was too much for them so they overtook on a blind corner and met a lorry coming the other way, jammed their brakes on and swerved back onto their/my side of the road. Good thing I was a cynic and braked as they overtook or I'd have been spending my Christmas at best experiencing the NHS hospital.

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You should report this to their traffic manager - we know the plod aren't interested but actually reporting the incident to their boss would at least be ammunition in case of further incidents.
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Mr Evil » 26 Dec 2016, 1:12pm

Psamathe wrote:For me a related (but worse) problem is when those impatient following drivers overtake with insufficient visibility ahead and then end-up having to swerve in when they meet the oncoming vehicle they for some reason thought would not be there!..


There's a road near me where that happens a lot. It has a 20mph limit, is downhill so I travel at >20mph there, and has a blind corner in the middle. I have taken to moving near to the centre line to discourage overtaking, but it still happens sometimes. It even happens on straight sections of road where it's quite obvious that there isn't enough time to overtake, but people seem to be unable to estimate overtake times when a bicycle is going above a certain speed; I have had to brake hard to avoid a car losing a game of chicken beside me several times.

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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Stevek76 » 26 Dec 2016, 3:11pm

Phil Fouracre wrote:
Think you're right - looks absolutely nothing to do with the cyclist, probably didn't even notice him. Barely managed to notice the big green bus :-)


Struggling to work out what she was doing. If she thought that was a second outbound lane she clearly didn't notice the oncoming vehicle near the start. I think perhaps she thought the bus was stopping (for passengers) and decided to overtake but got disturbingly far before actually looking ahead and seeing that the bus was actually just part of a queue.

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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby SA_SA_SA » 27 Dec 2016, 1:08pm

Mr Evil wrote:....a road near me where that happens a lot. It has a 20mph limit, is downhill so I travel at >20mph there,....

I presume you mistakenly typed that > rather than < or <= .
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby scotsmanincumbria » 27 Dec 2016, 1:29pm

reohn2 wrote:You're not alone in this,it's the MGIF and the motors have more right to be on the road attitude,toward cyclist,I term them Numpties,with the brains and foresight of a goldfish :?


That's a bit harsh on the goldfish :wink:
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby reohn2 » 27 Dec 2016, 1:38pm

scotsmanincumbria wrote:That's a bit harsh on the goldfish :wink:


You're right of course and I hereby formally apologise to any Goldfish that may have been offended by my comments toward their foresight or brains :mrgreen:
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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby Mr Evil » 27 Dec 2016, 1:54pm

SA_SA_SA wrote:
Mr Evil wrote:....a road near me where that happens a lot. It has a 20mph limit, is downhill so I travel at >20mph there,....

I presume you mistakenly typed that > rather than < or <= .

Nope. I enjoy the fact that speed limits only legally apply to motor vehicles.

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Re: Cars overtaking and then slowing down.

Postby drossall » 27 Dec 2016, 3:10pm

Yesterday on the way back from the Boxing Day 10, I had to point out the oncoming car to the driver attempting to overtake on a right hander. Otherwise, the bit of road that we were occupying would have been the escape route :(