Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

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Pete Owens
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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby Pete Owens » 12 May 2018, 1:21am

xerxes wrote:
Pete Owens wrote:Unfortunately, what they are doing is building a motorway-in-all-but name - which uses the existing alignment of the A556 on the northern part and converting the rest of the road to a high specification B road, which will still be unatractive to cyclists

Well, now that the new road has been open for a year, there is so little traffic on the B road that it is fine for cyclists. Additionally, what they have done is convert part of the old road into a cycleway. A total waste of money and resources.

Yes I was quite surprised by that. It even has a 30mph speed limit: https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/94546/
Though there is still the issue that the old road disappears at the northern end where the new road has been built over it.

The parallel farcility is typically awful giving way at every side road and farm entrance with a bonus surface covering of loose chippings.
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/94537/
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drossall
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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby drossall » 12 May 2018, 8:32am

At least the farcility will have the bonus of narrowing the road proper, thus reducing the tendency towards speeding and making the road safer for cycling. This will perhaps help to counteract the risk from "Get on the cycle path"!

drossall
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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby drossall » 12 May 2018, 9:00am

Pete Owens wrote:Though there is still the issue that the old road disappears at the northern end where the new road has been built over it.

So how do you get to Altrincham now? It looks as though what should have happened is to take the cycle route up the west side of the new road, over the bridge, and then have a crossing of the A56 to avoid the roundabout. Paid for by the money spent on the cycle path? Although a widened bridge would no doubt cost rather more than some chippings, the provision of a path alongside the B road suggests that it is expected that cyclists will be arriving at the north end, needing to travel onward somewhere? So, are we in a situation where the money spent on an unnecessary path could have been spent on allowing them to do that?

Or has the focus been on a circuit of Rostherne Mere for leisure riders, and not on the major route north?

xerxes
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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby xerxes » 12 May 2018, 2:00pm

drossall wrote:So how do you get to Altrincham now?

You have to follow the road as it bends to the right (Cherry Tree Lane) which takes you to the lower end of the Tatton Park long mile, then go through Ashley & Hale.

I think the most likely explanation for the existence of the new cycle path is that it ticked a box for someone who had to demonstrate that they had taken environmental issues into account with the design of the new road development. No matter that it isn't actually useful.

reohn2
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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby reohn2 » 12 May 2018, 3:09pm

xerxes wrote:
drossall wrote:So how do you get to Altrincham now?

You have to follow the road as it bends to the right (Cherry Tree Lane) which takes you to the lower end of the Tatton Park long mile, then go through Ashley & Hale.

Looks like it :roll:

I think the most likely explanation for the existence of the new cycle path is that it ticked a box for someone who had to demonstrate that they had taken environmental issues into account with the design of the new road development.No matter that it isn't actually useful.

That's par for the course with UK farcilities,cyclepaths/lanes that go nowhere :roll:
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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby drossall » 12 May 2018, 3:23pm

Whereas, with a bridge/underpass to Bowden, that could have been a really popular route. As it is, a strategic eye says there's no good route south-west from Altrincham and Manchester, between about Ashley and Lymm, because of the tarmac belt defending Cheshire from Manchester cyclists. What routes there are require riding east-west along the A56 to access them.

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Re: Chapel Lane, Bucklow Hill reopening 1st Feb ( updated )

Postby reohn2 » 12 May 2018, 3:33pm

drossall wrote:Whereas, with a bridge/underpass to Bowden, that could have been a really popular route. As it is, a strategic eye says there's no good route south-west from Altrincham and Manchester, between about Ashley and Lymm, because of the tarmac belt defending Cheshire from Manchester cyclists. What routes there are require riding east-west along the A56 to access them.

A popular route is Dunham,Brickiln Lane,footbridge over the Bollin(by the Swan with Two Nicks pub),Park Lane,dog leg over the A56 onto Reddy Lane to Bucklow Hill.
The footbridge isn't actually a cycling route,useless to a trike rider and slightly awkward for tandems,but we've come to expect in a backward country like the UK :? .
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