Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby pwa » 6 Feb 2018, 11:57am

Cyril Haearn wrote:Ydw hoffi yr gymdeithas ewrop!
We love the EU!


It was money channelled through the EU, just UK money going out then coming back. Makes no difference if it went to Brussels first. But this neck of the woods has seen little infrastructure investment. There's no megabucks Crossrail stuff going on, so a bit of investment in cycling seems like the very least the place deserves. The people down the road in Port Talbot have just learned that apparently there isn't enough money to electrify their main line railway.

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 6 Feb 2018, 12:01pm

So the electric trains have diesel motors too or one has to change at Caerdydd
The most bizarre thing I read: at Steventon a bridge will not be raised to make room for the wires so trains will have to lower their pantographs and coast through (if they have enough momentum)
Seems a bit dangerous too
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby RickH » 6 Feb 2018, 5:43pm

Can I recommend the "CTC Cymru Welsh Cycling Festival" – 19th - 23rd July 2018, based at Ruthin. I went to the 2017 event & plan to go again this year (but don't let that put you off! :? ). It is a low key event, around 100 or so people, mostly camping at the rugby club. Ruthin is a lovely little town & there's some great cycling - plenty of hills if you want them but you can head north towards the coast which is more rolling countryside.

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 15 Feb 2018, 4:27pm

pwa wrote:Wales is full of ambiguities and complexity. There is no single, typical Welsh person. The simmering language issue is just one of many ways of splitting Welsh people into groups. I often imagine Wales as two places: the former coal and steel dominated area of South Wales, and the rest. Within South Wales people often distinguish between the Valleys people and the rest. The stereotypical Valleys person is proudly working class, has a sing-songy accent and is loud. Some of that is based on truth, but I have come to see Valleys people as generally more likely to be friendly and considerate than better off people in the coastal towns and cities. Wealth does not improve people.

Three places at least (+ Powys Paradwys Cymru)
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby pwa » 16 Feb 2018, 7:33am

Cyril Haearn wrote:
pwa wrote:Wales is full of ambiguities and complexity. There is no single, typical Welsh person. The simmering language issue is just one of many ways of splitting Welsh people into groups. I often imagine Wales as two places: the former coal and steel dominated area of South Wales, and the rest. Within South Wales people often distinguish between the Valleys people and the rest. The stereotypical Valleys person is proudly working class, has a sing-songy accent and is loud. Some of that is based on truth, but I have come to see Valleys people as generally more likely to be friendly and considerate than better off people in the coastal towns and cities. Wealth does not improve people.

Three places at least (+ Powys Paradwys Cymru)

Dozens and dozens. Every time you think you know Wales you find something new.

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 21 Feb 2018, 5:59pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed

Gwlad! Gwlaaaad!
Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad!
Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau
O bydded yr hen iaith bar hau


Only a week until "independence day" :wink:

If Wales were to have a president, who might be suitable?
Jan/James Morris occurs to me, Nicole Cooke or Gareth Bale later maybe?
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby pwa » 22 Feb 2018, 9:49am

Cyril Haearn wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed

Gwlad! Gwlaaaad!
Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad!
Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau
O bydded yr hen iaith bar hau


Only a week until "independence day" :wink:

If Wales were to have a president, who might be suitable?
Jan/James Morris occurs to me, Nicole Cooke or Gareth Bale later maybe?


And I bet all three would say Wales should stay in the UK. Even Plaid are quiet these days on the notion of independence from the UK. It's not a popular idea here.

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 26 Feb 2018, 6:41pm

pwa wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:
pwa wrote:Wales is full of ambiguities and complexity. There is no single, typical Welsh person. The simmering language issue is just one of many ways of splitting Welsh people into groups. I often imagine Wales as two places: the former coal and steel dominated area of South Wales, and the rest. Within South Wales people often distinguish between the Valleys people and the rest. The stereotypical Valleys person is proudly working class, has a sing-songy accent and is loud. Some of that is based on truth, but I have come to see Valleys people as generally more likely to be friendly and considerate than better off people in the coastal towns and cities. Wealth does not improve people.

Three places at least (+ Powys Paradwys Cymru)

Dozens and dozens. Every time you think you know Wales you find something new.

Why there is even a 'little England beyond Wales' (Sir Penfro) in Wales, or west West Wales as fausto copy calls it
But is there a Wales in England?
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 1 Mar 2018, 4:27am

Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed

Gwlad! Gwlaaaad!
Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad!
Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau
O bydded yr hen iaith bar hau
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby colin54 » 1 Mar 2018, 10:10pm

Happy St David's Day Cyril Haearn and all other Welsh members.

Max Boyce in Treorchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np8xufcOztM

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 2 Mar 2018, 8:29am

colin54 wrote:Happy St David's Day Cyril Haearn and all other Welsh members.

Max Boyce in Treorchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np8xufcOztM

I was wondering who might be president when Wales gets independence, now I know
Sir Maxwell of course!
He worked underground and speaks Welsh, +1
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 2 Mar 2018, 12:09pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:
pwa wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:Three places at least (+ Powys Paradwys Cymru)

Dozens and dozens. Every time you think you know Wales you find something new.

Why there is even a 'little England beyond Wales' (Sir Penfro) in Wales, or west West Wales as fausto copy calls it
But is there a Wales in England?

Yes I just remembered there is a village called Wales near Sheffield, I must go there sometime
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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby RickH » 2 Mar 2018, 12:35pm

There also appears to be a Wales in Somerset - a hamlet(?) east of Yeovilton between West Camel & Queen Camel.

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Re: Cymru am byth - we love Wales!

Postby Cyril Haearn » 2 Mar 2018, 12:42pm

Oh dear, there is even a New South Wales, have not been there either, and of course Cadel Evans the first Welshman to win the TdF once is from down there
How decent, winning it once was enough for him, unlike some others :wink:
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Postby fausto copy » 6 Mar 2018, 7:38pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:
Why there is even a 'little England beyond Wales' (Sir Penfro) in Wales, or west West Wales as fausto copy calls it


It irritates me somewhat whenever I see a news item on the beeb, referring to South West Wales.
It's invariably Swansea, which normally sits pretty centrally in South Wales on my maps. :evil: