Being born in Wales, then moving to the Wigan area as a 3yr old, back to the family environment, I'm a Wiganer (not born) but bred.
Dad and mum were Lancastrians, and all the ancestors before them. Mum's family came from the Coppull/Standish area, and Dad's family from Wigan/Ince/Standish. I was at primary school in Wigan, and secondary school in Shevington.
My life's blood is Lancastrian, but I live and breathe Cornish now. Been here 35years, far longer than I was ever in Lancashire ............ or even Wales.
Bit like me then, I was born and brought up in South Yorkshire, studied in Newcastle then worked in Cambridge for 4 years before a career change brought me to South Derbyshire in 1983.
Cyril Haearn wrote:No need for a peace wall between Lancashire and Yorkshire
But were there not some boundary changes that moved places from L to Y or Y to L?
Is there a sudden change in speech/dialect at the boundary?
There is not one Yorkshire accent, or one Lancashire accent for that matter. But looking at Yorkshire, the Todmorden accent is very different to the more nasal accent of Hull. And if you go west from Todmorden into the more civilised west (Lancashire) you do not get a sudden change. Accents don't respect boundaries.
I'm from Bolton, Lancashire, and traditionally we are supposed to diss Yorkshire. In truth, like many from Lancashire, I love Yorkshire and I visit frequently.
But there are dialect boundaries or Isogloss (google it).
When I was at school there was a lad in my year called Ian McMillan, he is now the Barnsley Poet and has appeared on TV in shows like "Have I Got News For You" etc. Some years ago he did a radio show about "The ****(the impolite word for your bottom)/House Interface". In Barnsley your house is indeed your house, however in Sheffield it's your **** (the impolite word for your bottom). The program set out to find the isogloss between the two dialect versions of the word. I found it very amusing.
My son is at Lancaster University (post-grad) and I suspect he'll settle there (he's massively into rock climbing). I've been there quite a few times and cycled up into the Forest of Bowland and along the estuary (old railway line). I have to say that even as a Yorkshireman I like the place in most respects apart from the horrendous traffic.
Spinners wrote:The only loaded touring I've actually ever done was a three-day tour from Port Talbot to Middlesbrough and Day Three started from Goosnargh (near Preston) over to Skipton and then up into the Yorkshire Dales. Wonderful scenery and quite a test for a standard road double chainset!
Wasn't a fair bit of that day three through the glories of Lancashire? possibly the Ribble Valley?
Cyril Haearn wrote:. In truth, like many from Lancashire, I love Yorkshire and I visit frequently.
Very true
Though if those Yorkshire folks could get a waiting room sorted at Hellifield station I'd be happier. Soaked from a cold wet ride today I was reduced to jumping up and down while i waited for the train to stall hypothermia.
Wit' icicles dripping off t' nose Seriously though as a Southerner I have been to yorkshire just the once, a couple of years ago and thought it were reet grand. I was in the Skipton area mainly.
Spinners wrote:The only loaded touring I've actually ever done was a three-day tour from Port Talbot to Middlesbrough and Day Three started from Goosnargh (near Preston) over to Skipton and then up into the Yorkshire Dales. Wonderful scenery and quite a test for a standard road double chainset!
Wasn't a fair bit of that day three through the glories of Lancashire? possibly the Ribble Valley?
I can only remember getting lost from the word go and stumbling into a local club run who were next to useless with directions and then bombing over to Skipton on the main road. Things soon slowed down in the Dales...