Most of the counties (including Lancs) were established long before the Wars of the Roses. Lancs didn't exist at the time of the Domesday book which lists some parts under Cheshire, some parts under Yorks, and many parts not at all. People need to get away from this idea of the Wars of the Roses as wars between counties. They were national conflicts between dynastic houses. Contrary to common myth, support for the houses was not geographically aligned to the counties. https://sites.google.com/site/martinhic ... lancashire
pwa wrote:I'm from Lancashire, and traditionally we are supposed to diss Yorkshire. In truth, like many from Lancashire, I love Yorkshire and I visit frequently.
AdamS wrote:Most of the counties (including Lancs) were established long before the Wars of the Roses. Lancs didn't exist at the time of the Domesday book which lists some parts under Cheshire, some parts under Yorks, and many parts not at all. People need to get away from this idea of the Wars of the Roses as wars between counties. They were national conflicts between dynastic houses. Contrary to common myth, support for the houses was not geographically aligned to the counties. https://sites.google.com/site/martinhic ... lancashire
pwa wrote:I'm from Lancashire, and traditionally we are supposed to diss Yorkshire. In truth, like many from Lancashire, I love Yorkshire and I visit frequently.
Same here
All true, and as a Yorkshireman I have no problem with Lancashire. In recent years I have got to know Lancaster since my son is at the University there and it's a lovely place. The area to the east of the Motorway - The forest of Bowland - is a lovely area unspoilt due to being undiscovered by tourists. Also of course, quite a bit of the Lake District falls under the old County of Lancashire and is truly beautiful.
The rivalry is really only perpetuated by the 2 County Cricket teams as a way of boosting interest and attendances.
I've always seen it as a friendly rivalry. Fine as a bit of fun, baffling when people take it seriously! In response to your kind words. I should acknowledge that the eastern half of Bowland is historically Yorkshire so we can both lay claim to that one
Perhaps some of you Yorkshire-lovers could help me spread the love?
I'm helping to organise a tour around Yorkshire for a group of about 50 continental club riders** next September, and would like some advice on routes, and maybe eating places.
Ray wrote:Perhaps some of you Yorkshire-lovers could help me spread the love?
I'm helping to organise a tour around Yorkshire for a group of about 50 continental club riders** next September, and would like some advice on routes, and maybe eating places.
Did HR go bust, why? I remember reading about it years ago. Unfortunately I am now a vegetarian. Does Little Chef still exist? Used to go there often. I guess I should stop off in Yorkshire more often
Entertainer, juvenile, curmudgeon, PoB, 30120 Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott We love safety cameras, we hate bullies
Cyril Haearn wrote:Harry Ramsdens Fish and Chip Restaurants?
I haven't yet managed to arrange for a fish'n'chips dinner during the trip, but we are having shepherds' pie and rhubarb crumble at our Mytholmroyd lunch stop, followed, of course, by a nice cup of Yorkshire tea. Visitors welcome, just let me know if you'd like to join us.
As for the Wetherby Whaler - when did whaling ships last operate out of Wetherby?
Ray The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt - Bertrand Russell
I've no idea why the Wetherby Whaler places are so named. The first was in Wetherby; perhaps it's an allusion to the size of the fish portions (I do know that whales are not fish. Perhaps there should be a "We love whales" thread. )
I suppose the most famous fish and chip shops in Yorkshire are in Whitby, which did once have whaling connections.
Yorkshire is looking stunning at the moment. We're on holiday this week staying in the Dales and doing the touristy thing (unfortunately in the car as Mrs. Spinners doesn't cycle) and I've managed to get out for a couple of short rides. The TdF and TdY legacy is still evident with plenty of yellow bicycles about the place.
Spinners wrote:Yorkshire is looking stunning at the moment. We're on holiday this week staying in the Dales and doing the touristy thing (unfortunately in the car as Mrs. Spinners doesn't cycle) and I've managed to get out for a couple of short rides. The TdF and TdY legacy is still evident with plenty of yellow bicycles about the place.
Wish I was there too. Does she drink? Leave her in the Tan Hill Inn for a couple of hours while you do a circular down Swaledale and back up Arkengarthdale. She'll be hammered by the time you get back to her but you'll get a great ride in.