texting whilst in control of a vehicle

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texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby andrewk » 6 Apr 2017, 3:32am

No, not a car driver, not a lorry driver but a stupid prat texting whilst cycling in light traffic in London...an accident waiting to happen...or waiting for Darwinian selection to take effect.
Doubtless if he is killed/maimed there will be protests from the vociferous cycling lobby...but with morons like this it could well be their own fault.

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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby brynpoeth » 6 Apr 2017, 4:50am

One could *almost* say he is more stupid than drivers doing the same

If he drops his phone it could be smashed or fall into a drain

Trouble is, the cops have to prioritise, they must be catch all the texting drivers first so they will never get on to the cyclists

One sees many teenagers doing this
Would it make sense to get them before they *learn to drive*? I fear not
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby Elizabethsdad » 6 Apr 2017, 6:49am

'Texting while in control of a vehicle' (or anything else, come to that) is a contradiction in terms.

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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby Psamathe » 6 Apr 2017, 9:59am

I'm not disagreeing with the stupidity of the action, but out of interest what is the law in this regard. I thought I remember somebody saying (on here) that talking on a mobile phone whilst cycling was not against the law (i.e. dialling, holding phone to ear, one hand on the bars, one holding phone, no legal requirement for "hands-free", etc.). Can't find the post/thread and maybe faulty recollection (not something I really registered as it is so easy to stop).

(Don't worry, I have no plans to do it, just out of interest).

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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby gaz » 6 Apr 2017, 10:50am

The Highway Code says:
Rule 66
You should

keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear
...

The mobile phone usage offence under The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003 applies only when driving a motor vehicle.


Careless and Dangerous Cycling legislation may apply to mobile phone usage whilst cycling.
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby Psamathe » 6 Apr 2017, 11:21am

gaz wrote:The Highway Code says:
Rule 66
You should

keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear
...

The mobile phone usage offence under The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003 applies only when driving a motor vehicle.


Careless and Dangerous Cycling legislation may apply to mobile phone usage whilst cycling.

So I assume that as it is a "should" rather than a "must" it is a (sensible) recommendation rather than a legal requirement.

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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby [XAP]Bob » 6 Apr 2017, 2:08pm

andrewk wrote:No, not a car driver, not a lorry driver but a stupid prat texting whilst cycling in light traffic in London...an accident waiting to happen...or waiting for Darwinian selection to take effect.
Doubtless if he is killed/maimed there will be protests from the vociferous cycling lobby...but with morons like this it could well be their own fault.



More important than this is that the danger he poses is to himself, not to others.

There is a world of difference between a cyclist on the phone and a motorist doing the same...
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby Bez » 6 Apr 2017, 2:12pm

There is no specific offence for this but it can potentially be construed as careless cycling as defined by the Road Traffic Act 1988.

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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby rmurphy195 » 12 Apr 2017, 7:24pm

andrewk wrote:No, not a car driver, not a lorry driver but a stupid prat texting whilst cycling in light traffic in London...an accident waiting to happen...or waiting for Darwinian selection to take effect.
Doubtless if he is killed/maimed there will be protests from the vociferous cycling lobby...but with morons like this it could well be their own fault.


Different vehicle, same mentality, no insurance
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby landsurfer » 12 Apr 2017, 7:55pm

rmurphy195 wrote:
andrewk wrote:No, not a car driver, not a lorry driver but a stupid prat texting whilst cycling in light traffic in London...an accident waiting to happen...or waiting for Darwinian selection to take effect.
Doubtless if he is killed/maimed there will be protests from the vociferous cycling lobby...but with morons like this it could well be their own fault.


Different vehicle, same mentality, no insurance


Totally agree, add those with the ear phones in, in traffic, changing tracks or chatting ....... See it every day .. :(
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby Postboxer » 12 Apr 2017, 10:58pm

I saw a kid cycling to school the other day, I think he was on the pavement, he was vaping, at least that's better than smoking I suppose.

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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Apr 2017, 4:54am

Postboxer wrote:I saw a kid cycling to school the other day, I think he was on the pavement, he was vaping, at least that's better than smoking I suppose.


Better? Less bad maybe but we will not know for a while
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby [XAP]Bob » 13 Apr 2017, 5:43am

rmurphy195 wrote:
andrewk wrote:No, not a car driver, not a lorry driver but a stupid prat texting whilst cycling in light traffic in London...an accident waiting to happen...or waiting for Darwinian selection to take effect.
Doubtless if he is killed/maimed there will be protests from the vociferous cycling lobby...but with morons like this it could well be their own fault.


Different vehicle, same mentality, no insurance


Who said he had no insurance.

Most people would have insurance as part of their home insurance (Buildings and/or contents)
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby peetee » 18 Apr 2017, 10:53pm

Last week we were in our car behind a police car at traffic lights when a bloke rode his bike (note, I do not refer to him as a 'cyclist') across in front of us from pavement to pavement whilst texting. There was no response from the occupants within the police car but within seconds the lights changed to green and the police car and us turned left - the direction the rider went. Here we go, I thought, they will pull him over now. Nope, still riding on the pavement and texting, now with both hands off, they just drove past him! :roll:
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Re: texting whilst in control of a vehicle

Postby Barks » 18 Apr 2017, 11:09pm

Does it really matter - the bloke texting on the bike is almost certainly never going to kill someone. A driver of a car or truck though just might, that is who the police need to concentrate on. The attempts to somehow give legitimacy to drivers who put others in dangers because a bloke on a bike commits a reckless act that only puts themselves in danger has simply just got to stop. It's the equivalent of 19C factory (and those from later times as well I am afraid) owners blaming workers for industrial injuries and illnesses.