Squirrels!

Commuting, Day rides, Audax, Incidents, etc.
roberts8
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby roberts8 » 29 Oct 2017, 9:12pm

Have hit a squirrel and a few sparrows but commuting through Richmond Park one night I ran into a herd of deer, I came off and curled up in a ball as a herd of large deer clattered around me. I got a few bruises and as I was unrolling another cyclist came along and asked if I was ok. I must admit to being rattled.

mercalia
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby mercalia » 30 Oct 2017, 12:56pm

roberts8 wrote:Have hit a squirrel and a few sparrows but commuting through Richmond Park one night I ran into a herd of deer, I came off and curled up in a ball as a herd of large deer clattered around me. I got a few bruises and as I was unrolling another cyclist came along and asked if I was ok. I must admit to being rattled.


wow rutting season? thats some thing I have never thought of happening to me there

mark1964
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby mark1964 » 29 Nov 2017, 1:33pm

Hit one on the Bristol Railway Path a few months back. Definitely hit it, stopped expecting a corpse, but nothing!. A few days later a guy on a road bike in front of me also hit one.

geocycle
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby geocycle » 29 Nov 2017, 4:24pm

I ran over one once, felt horrible. It ran in front of me like Phil Bennett against the all blacks in 1974, no chance of missing it which ever way I went.

reohn2
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby reohn2 » 29 Nov 2017, 5:00pm

Years ago we hit one on the tandem with front wheel,direct hit to the head,the result wasn't pretty.
Luckily it was a Grey tree rat one,which IMO should have all out war declared on anyway,as they're solely responsible for the decline in our native Red species.
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kwackers
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby kwackers » 29 Nov 2017, 9:36pm

reohn2 wrote:Years ago we hit one on the tandem with front wheel,direct hit to the head,the result wasn't pretty.
Luckily it was a Grey tree rat one,which IMO should have all out war declared on anyway,as they're solely responsible for the decline in our native Red species.

Well technically, we're solely responsible for bringing it over here, ditto rabbits to Australia etc etc (plus rabbits aren't native to the UK anyway but...)

The poor grey squirrel is only doing what evolution created it to do.

reohn2
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby reohn2 » 29 Nov 2017, 11:40pm

kwackers wrote:
reohn2 wrote:Years ago we hit one on the tandem with front wheel,direct hit to the head,the result wasn't pretty.
Luckily it was a Grey tree rat one,which IMO should have all out war declared on anyway,as they're solely responsible for the decline in our native Red species.

Well technically, we're solely responsible for bringing it over here, ditto rabbits to Australia etc etc (plus rabbits aren't native to the UK anyway but...)

The poor grey squirrel is only doing what evolution created it to do.

The Grey squirrel which was introduced in the mid 19th century, is directly responsible for the almost extiction of our native Red squirrel and is a nuisance.
Likewise the Rabbit which was introduced in the 11th century,the difference is the Rabbit hasn't been responsible for the decline of any other species that I'm aware of only farm crops.
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby kwackers » 30 Nov 2017, 9:01am

reohn2 wrote:The Grey squirrel which was introduced in the mid 19th century, is directly responsible for the almost extiction of our native Red squirrel and is a nuisance.
Likewise the Rabbit which was introduced in the 11th century,the difference is the Rabbit hasn't been responsible for the decline of any other species that I'm aware of only farm crops.

I know the history, I simply tried to make the point that the squirrel wasn't to blame.
The blame as with virtually all incidences of alien species lies firmly on our shoulders...

It reminds me of the problem we have with pigeons and rats. They're just pigeons and rats, it's us that throw food waste all over the place and then complain when the population of them explodes.

When I bought my current house it came with a resident squirrel (grey). Used to watch it occasionally doing its stuff whilst in the garden.
One day the cat got it and it became an ex-grey squirrel. The day after there were two of them running around on the grass!
I have on occasion since seen three so who knows how many there really are. Mind you I was complaining a few weeks ago I hadn't seen 'our' hedgehog for months and the very same night went out and there were three hedgehogs on the lawn!

Squirrels are entertaining. It's a battle of wits keeping them out of the bird feeders - with victories on both sides. My lawn is tough and resilient too given I think it's now actually composed of oak saplings.

reohn2
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby reohn2 » 30 Nov 2017, 9:11am

kwackers wrote:
reohn2 wrote:The Grey squirrel which was introduced in the mid 19th century, is directly responsible for the almost extiction of our native Red squirrel and is a nuisance.
Likewise the Rabbit which was introduced in the 11th century,the difference is the Rabbit hasn't been responsible for the decline of any other species that I'm aware of only farm crops.

I know the history, I simply tried to make the point that the squirrel wasn't to blame.
The blame as with virtually all incidences of alien species lies firmly on our shoulders...


I totally agree,we truly are very a destructive species the planet could probably do better without ,meanwhile we can undo the wrongs of our forefathers especially where Greys are concerned.
I'd rather see Reds running about in my garden(perhaps its my political leanings :) ) and they're far more benign than their Trumped up US Grey ccousins.
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AlaninWales
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby AlaninWales » 30 Nov 2017, 10:19am

reohn2 wrote:
kwackers wrote:
reohn2 wrote:The Grey squirrel which was introduced in the mid 19th century, is directly responsible for the almost extiction of our native Red squirrel and is a nuisance.
Likewise the Rabbit which was introduced in the 11th century,the difference is the Rabbit hasn't been responsible for the decline of any other species that I'm aware of only farm crops.

I know the history, I simply tried to make the point that the squirrel wasn't to blame.
The blame as with virtually all incidences of alien species lies firmly on our shoulders...


I totally agree,we truly are very a destructive species the planet could probably do better without ,meanwhile we can undo the wrongs of our forefathers especially where Greys are concerned.
I'd rather see Reds running about in my garden(perhaps its my political leanings :) ) and they're far more benign than their Trumped up US Grey ccousins.

But the poor human is only doing what evolution created it to do.

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Re: Squirrels!

Postby kwackers » 30 Nov 2017, 10:27am

AlaninWales wrote:But the poor human is only doing what evolution created it to do.

And yet, supposedly.
What a piece of work is man, How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty, In form and moving how express and admirable, In action how like an Angel, In apprehension how like a god

But then I always thought that was a crock of crap.

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Re: Squirrels!

Postby AlaninWales » 30 Nov 2017, 10:34am

kwackers wrote:
AlaninWales wrote:But the poor human is only doing what evolution created it to do.

And yet, supposedly.
What a piece of work is man, How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty, In form and moving how express and admirable, In action how like an Angel, In apprehension how like a god

But then I always thought that was a crock of crap.

And yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me; no, nor Woman neither; though by your smiling you seem to say so.

Shakespeare was only doing what evolution created him to do too.

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Re: Squirrels!

Postby kwackers » 30 Nov 2017, 10:36am

AlaninWales wrote:Shakespeare was only doing what evolution created him to do too.

I fear we're heading into a deterministic reality here.

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Re: Squirrels!

Postby reohn2 » 30 Nov 2017, 4:23pm

AlaninWales wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
kwackers wrote:I know the history, I simply tried to make the point that the squirrel wasn't to blame.
The blame as with virtually all incidences of alien species lies firmly on our shoulders...


I totally agree,we truly are very a destructive species the planet could probably do better without ,meanwhile we can undo the wrongs of our forefathers especially where Greys are concerned.
I'd rather see Reds running about in my garden(perhaps its my political leanings :) ) and they're far more benign than their Trumped up US Grey ccousins.

But the poor human is only doing what evolution created it to do.

You mean ultimately self destruct?
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AlaninWales
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Re: Squirrels!

Postby AlaninWales » 30 Nov 2017, 4:54pm

reohn2 wrote:
AlaninWales wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
I totally agree,we truly are very a destructive species the planet could probably do better without ,meanwhile we can undo the wrongs of our forefathers especially where Greys are concerned.
I'd rather see Reds running about in my garden(perhaps its my political leanings :) ) and they're far more benign than their Trumped up US Grey ccousins.

But the poor human is only doing what evolution created it to do.

You mean ultimately self destruct?

Most species do, when the resources they depend on come to an end. Where life continues, it usually does so by evolving to utilise the by-products as resources. Humans may achieve that via technology, or they might not.