‘That’s not right...’

[[XAP]Bob]

Hope you're OK Bob and of course the trike's OK too

Looked at the trike yesterday - given that it took at least one each of flip spin and roll...

• The RH mudguard is split, and the support somewhat bent.
• The headrest is bent.
• The front of the front light is gone.
• The flagpole section which housed the cameras splintered.
• There is some play in the CFT hinge (I'll be asking ICE directly about this in a moment).

[Vorpal]

Oh no! Sorry to hear about this. I hope that you are feeling better. Sorry about the trike, I hope that insurance doesn't give you too much trouble over repairs or replacement.

[reohn2]

Hope you're OK Bob and of course the trike's OK too

Looked at the trike yesterday - given that it took at least one each of flip spin and roll...

• The RH mudguard is split, and the support somewhat bent.
• The headrest is bent.
• The front of the front light is gone.
• The flagpole section which housed the cameras splintered.
• There is some play in the CFT hinge (I'll be asking ICE directly about this in a moment).

I'd have a full check over by ICE on frame and wheels to be on the safe side,I hope things get sorted quickly for you Bob.

[[XAP]Bob]

Hope you're OK Bob and of course the trike's OK too

Looked at the trike yesterday - given that it took at least one each of flip spin and roll...
...

I'd have a full check over by ICE on frame and wheels to be on the safe side,I hope things get sorted quickly for you Bob.

That involves a trip to my parents...
Not quite sure when that might be able to happen.

Depending on the response regarding the hinge I'll make a decision about how closely they need to look at the rest of the frame... It "just" bounced as far as I can tell, so it's not actually been as overstressed as it might otherwise have been.

[reohn2]

Looked at the trike yesterday - given that it took at least one each of flip spin and roll...
...

I'd have a full check over by ICE on frame and wheels to be on the safe side,I hope things get sorted quickly for you Bob.

That involves a trip to my parents...
Not quite sure when that might be able to happen.

Depending on the response regarding the hinge I'll make a decision about how closely they need to look at the rest of the frame... It "just" bounced as far as I can tell, so it's not actually been as overstressed as it might otherwise have been.

Youll know better than anyone what the impact was like and how the trike was stressed,anyway hope it all gets sorted PDQ.

[[XAP]Bob]

You say that - it was behind me at the time

[reohn2]

You say that - it was behind me at the time

An OTT then

[atlas_shrugged]

Bob sorry to hear of the vehicle crashing into you on a roundabout.

@Reohn
> I've rapidly come to the same conclusion that good quality separate infrastructure and reduced and enforced speed limits in built up areas is the only way forward for safer cycling in the UK.

+1
I came to the same conclusion after the killing of two children (who I knew) riding their bikes in the city where I live. I have written a spec about the full segregation of cycling/walking from motor vehicles. I am hoping to get my county council to adopt this since they currently have no county standards for cycle/walk ways. Since then I discoverer I had reinvented the wonderful work of Caxton in Stevenage.

I contacted Cycling UK hoping to get some support and backing for this spec only to be told they would not help because they are only interested in national standards. <ranton> That is a pity because in the meantime people are being hurt, maimed, and in some terrible cases killed. This situation is totally avoidable. We have loads of money in this country because we can give away £1500 to every person who wants to buy an electric Chelsea tractor. </rantoff>

[[XAP]Bob]

I can understand the focus on national standards, but if various places can make appropriate local standards then isn't that a stepping stone?

[atlas_shrugged]

+1

Exactly Bob

[Pete Owens]

My first bike-related hospitalisation* was a roundabout based SMIDSY......not only knackered shoulder (that I still suffer with over 20 years later) and knackered bike (friendly bikeshop man was 'creative' in his estimates for repair ), but missed my holiday to see the TdF.

Led to a bit of head scratching and asking myself what could I have done to avoid it? Riding in primary, excellent visibility, indicating where I was going, watching the approaching traffic.....but when a driver is looking straight at you and slowing, then accelerates when you are practically right in front of him there's a not a lot you could have done. It's a frightening thought that no matter how much effort you put into improving your defensive riding, observation and control of the road around you, sometimes there's a bullet with your name on it. That's why we need proper, usable segregated routes on many roads.

The trouble is that segregated routes make this sort of crash more likely. It doesn't matter how well designed the facility is, how wide, smoothly surfaced, separated from pedestrians, edged with forgiving kerbs etc you always end up causing increased conflicts at junctions.

The way to improve the safety of roundabouts is to use compact geometry to slow down the traffic.

[Vorpal]

The trouble is that segregated routes make this sort of crash more likely. It doesn't matter how well designed the facility is, how wide, smoothly surfaced, separated from pedestrians, edged with forgiving kerbs etc you always end up causing increased conflicts at junctions.

The way to improve the safety of roundabouts is to use compact geometry to slow down the traffic.

Doesn't that depend upon how segregated? If junctions are reduced by using overpasses & subways, or if cyclists have separate signals, conflicts may be reduced, rather then increased.

Reducing traffic speeds, and using cycle-friendly roundabout design is best when traffic speeds are under 40 mph and traffic volume is low or moderate. If they are greater, there shoudl be a quiet route, either segregated infrastructure or a quiet route with limited motor traffic permeability.

I don't know about you, but I'd far rather have Mini V riding her bike to school on quiet streets and good segregated infrastructure than using a roundabout with compact geometry on a busy road.

[Tangled Metal]

I'd rather have the Dutch run our country. They seem to have good solutions to transport. Can we do a swap?Dutch politicians, officials, laws, roads, transport solutions, way of life, etc.?

Seriously hope everything works out for you Bob. That you keep safe and get back on your trike (or replacement under the insurance of the driver) soon.

If ICE are too far, do you have any other recumbent shop nearby? Basically do you live near London, little Thetford, Glasgow, Edinburgh or Peak District? I think they're the only recumbent retailers locations. Whilst it's just a type of bike I'd personally prefer a checkout by a specialist if it was me. Daft really since it's just a different shape bike with a lot of standard bike parts and construction methods. A good bike shop should be able to spot signs of damage / weakness in the frame.

[[XAP]Bob]

I live pretty far from any such shop- but my parents live near ICE, so I'd run that as a possible route

[Tangled Metal]

Visiting parents is a very valid excuse to go to a recumbent shop.

My excuse is a camping trip to Ely. So far it's never worked. I keep saying how Ely is a lovely place and Cambridgeshire is so flat it'll be nice cycling there. If only my uncle still lived in the area. Lost contact with my cousin who did live there. So no excuse.