road surfaces after the winter

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road surfaces after the winter

Postby mig » 19 Feb 2018, 11:53am

after three months off the bike my return last week witnessed a really noticeable deterioration of the road surfaces over winter in and around my local area (manchester.) huge patches of broken tarmac and large potholes. the roads seem to have fallen apart this winter and it hasn't been that frosty & cold, more wet.

is this a trend country wide?

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby Roadster » 19 Feb 2018, 12:28pm

It's certainly the case where I am - I've lived here for 40 years and never seen the roads in such a bad state as they are at present. Judging from BBC news features, this situation is by no means untypical of the whole region nor indeed of the whole country. At this rate, all bikes will have to be suitable for "off-road" use because there won't be any properly maintained road left to ride on!

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby reohn2 » 19 Feb 2018, 12:55pm

Yep same where ever you go IME
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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby Vorpal » 19 Feb 2018, 12:59pm

Cheap and cheerful maintenance the last couple of years?
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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby foxyrider » 19 Feb 2018, 2:55pm

I ride a lot in North Derbyshire - last year they spent a considerable amount of time and money tar and gritting the counties roads. Almost every metre of such treated road has now lost its 'finish' making the roads considerably worse than they were before - they now have piies of chippings as well as potholes and a terrible corrugated surface!

The same has happened in Notts where they put in 'anti skid' surfaces - horrible corrugations and a more dangerous surface than the original.

The least affected roads are those with 'old' surfaces that haven't had 'retrofit' treatments.
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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby mig » 19 Feb 2018, 4:25pm

foxyrider wrote:I ride a lot in North Derbyshire - last year they spent a considerable amount of time and money tar and gritting the counties roads. Almost every metre of such treated road has now lost its 'finish' making the roads considerably worse than they were before - they now have piies of chippings as well as potholes and a terrible corrugated surface!

The same has happened in Notts where they put in 'anti skid' surfaces - horrible corrugations and a more dangerous surface than the original.

The least affected roads are those with 'old' surfaces that haven't had 'retrofit' treatments.


you have a large handful of tiny gears right? :wink:

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby foxyrider » 19 Feb 2018, 6:48pm

mig wrote:
foxyrider wrote:I ride a lot in North Derbyshire - last year they spent a considerable amount of time and money tar and gritting the counties roads. Almost every metre of such treated road has now lost its 'finish' making the roads considerably worse than they were before - they now have piies of chippings as well as potholes and a terrible corrugated surface!

The same has happened in Notts where they put in 'anti skid' surfaces - horrible corrugations and a more dangerous surface than the original.

The least affected roads are those with 'old' surfaces that haven't had 'retrofit' treatments.


you have a large handful of tiny gears right? :wink:

I've got 34x27 :lol: is that low enough?
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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby Bowlander » 19 Feb 2018, 8:00pm

mig wrote:after three months off the bike my return last week witnessed a really noticeable deterioration of the road surfaces over winter in and around my local area (manchester.) huge patches of broken tarmac and large potholes. the roads seem to have fallen apart this winter and it hasn't been that frosty & cold, more wet.

is this a trend country wide?
The roads are blooming awful around here in Bowland. Ice has trashed them. The council are fixing the worst ones rapidly, but leaving the lesser ones.

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby mig » 19 Feb 2018, 8:45pm

foxyrider wrote:
mig wrote:
foxyrider wrote:I ride a lot in North Derbyshire - last year they spent a considerable amount of time and money tar and gritting the counties roads. Almost every metre of such treated road has now lost its 'finish' making the roads considerably worse than they were before - they now have piies of chippings as well as potholes and a terrible corrugated surface!

The same has happened in Notts where they put in 'anti skid' surfaces - horrible corrugations and a more dangerous surface than the original.

The least affected roads are those with 'old' surfaces that haven't had 'retrofit' treatments.


you have a large handful of tiny gears right? :wink:

I've got 34x27 :lol: is that low enough?


hopefully!

i rode from manchester to belper one hot summer's day using 53/39 and something like a 12-21 cassette. now i was on a diet on a good few miles per week back then but.....STREWTH!!!

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby Richard D » 19 Feb 2018, 9:37pm

After nearly thirty years of driving with zero punctures (and at one stage I was doing 24,000 miles a year), in the last 5,000 miles I've had two tyres killed by potholes.

On the bike, I've been lucky - so far. But a pothole severe enough to kill a car tyre is going to do serious damage to a cyclist and his bike.

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby Spinners » 19 Feb 2018, 9:51pm

It's almost as if the rock salt destroys the roads :wink:
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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby mig » 19 Feb 2018, 10:25pm

Spinners wrote:It's almost as if the rock salt destroys the roads :wink:


that's my point though. there has been only a minimal amount here this year. plenty of water, not much snow and frost. but the roads are wrecked.

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Re: road surfaces after the winter

Postby foxyrider » 20 Feb 2018, 8:50am

mig wrote:
Spinners wrote:It's almost as if the rock salt destroys the roads :wink:


that's my point though. there has been only a minimal amount here this year. plenty of water, not much snow and frost. but the roads are wrecked.

Apparently it's the constant freeze/thaw cycle that does the damage rather than the salt. Once the surface is damaged the melt water then washes out the debris and hey presto a pothole appears, literally in hours.

We've had this cycle going on since November in these parts.
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