Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Aug 2018, 10:37am

PH wrote:
mumbojumbo wrote: compelled to take a test similar to drivers eg what do you do if you meet a cow on the road ?

I always stop and milk it.

Make quite sure it is not a bull :?
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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Ben@Forest » 13 Aug 2018, 5:34pm

Is there any empirical research or study on cyclists RLJing? And does it occur more frequently in some places than others? (I don't mean where there are more red lights!)

I very rarely see cyclists do it though it annoys me when l see cyclists slip onto the pavement, ride across the pedestrian crossing then slip back onto the road.

Very occasionally l go through red lights at roadworks but only after vainly trying to make the sensor 'read me' and actually change to green. There is a single carriageway lights controlled bridge not far from me where if a car parks close to the bridge at one end no amount of flailing about will make make it change for a cyclist at the other. So you have to run the red.

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Bonefishblues » 13 Aug 2018, 9:38pm

I post on motoring forums too. I have no axe to grind either way, although it has been asserted by a poster on here that I am 'pro car'. I prefer to think that I'm in an unusual situation in that I have a foot in both 'camps', as it were.

I do see ignorant comments about cyclists in other places, but I can't recall a time when such views have not been challenged by others and called out for what they are. As a result I do think that there are many fewer than previously.

I reflect on CyclingUK where sweeping generalisations are made pretty routinely about 'motons' and other terms, and where attempts to present another perspective provoke accusations such as being pro car, as above.

Both types of forum are populated by enthusiasts, so perhaps not representative, but being honest, cyclists get a much better rap on, say, Pistonheads, than motorists do on here.

Just my observation, who knows whether the OP was trolling or not, but they were chased off pdq. Sometimes alternative perspectives are the best gift one can have.

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby meic » 13 Aug 2018, 9:55pm

cyclists get a much better rap on, say, Pistonheads, than motorists do on here.

Which is somewhat strange as most of us are motorists ourselves.

I dont think that anybody was objecting to the OP being a motorist, they were objecting to a certain subset of motorists with an attitude of condemning ALL cyclists loudly (in their own domain) for petty misdemeanors of the few. While blatantly ignoring the more serious faults of the majority of the group which they are implicitly representing.

It is pretty fair for a pedestrian to have a stereotypical go about cyclists because your stereotypical pedestrian is the least guilty party around.
For a motorist to have a stereotypical go about cyclists opens up the door to receiving a stereotypical answer about motorists.

If on the other hand they come here and condemn red light jumpers as a whole they would get very little disagreement.
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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Bonefishblues » 13 Aug 2018, 10:11pm

meic wrote:
cyclists get a much better rap on, say, Pistonheads, than motorists do on here.

Which is somewhat strange as most of us are motorists ourselves.

Indeed it is.

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Postboxer » 13 Aug 2018, 10:14pm

Yes but I'm one of the 90% of drivers who think they are above average.

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Bonefishblues » 13 Aug 2018, 10:28pm

Illusory superiority exists in every population of humans, it's well understood and well documented. That of course includes drivers. It might even include the odd cyclist. :D

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby MikeF » 13 Aug 2018, 11:26pm

Chaddy wrote:Does anybody know why cyclists are oblivious to red traffic lights. They just saunter through with a total disregard for public safety. As a motorist i thought the highway code was for all road users. I didn't realise cyclists were exemp.
All road users?? Many motorists are exempt from stopping at traffic lights too. :wink:
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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby crazydave789 » 13 Aug 2018, 11:28pm

I only hope brexit reduces the number of audi and bmw drivers tearing up the roads with their faulty indicators

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Bonefishblues » 14 Aug 2018, 10:37am

crazydave789 wrote:I only hope brexit reduces the number of audi and bmw drivers tearing up the roads with their faulty indicators

To quote a currently en vogue phrase, that's a real dog whistle post, isn't it :roll:

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby meic » 14 Aug 2018, 10:48am

Rather reminiscent of the post starting the conversation, though with a touch of humour.

BMWs and Audis DO drive along not bothering to indicate, just stand at any roundabout for a short while and you will have the evidence. Though if you observe other makes of cars as well you will notice that indicators have dropped out of fashion with drivers of all makes of car.
The good point with this is that a good deal of those with indicators flashing actually do a different manouvere to that indicated, so those who dont bother are often a blessing in disguise.

This bothers me much more as a motorist than as a cyclist.
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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby Bonefishblues » 14 Aug 2018, 10:52am

Indeed. I never, but never rely on other people's indicators!

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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby MikeF » 14 Aug 2018, 5:41pm

gaz wrote:
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Indeed. Cyclists jumping red lights are usually just an irritation rather than a danger. :wink:
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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Aug 2018, 6:12pm

crazydave789 wrote:I only hope brexit reduces the number of audi and bmw drivers tearing up the roads with their faulty indicators

german cars will become rare in NewK, tariffs will make them very expensive, they will be replaced by ford "anglias" :)
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Re: Cyclists ignoring traffic lights

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Aug 2018, 6:14pm

wmp asserts that all road users offend at the same rate, really?
how many traffic offences do PoFs commit?
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