How much to take on an audax?

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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby pwa » 7 Oct 2018, 7:50pm

Whippet wrote:I use the 13 litre Super C rack bag, purely for the reason that if it was good enough for Steve Abraham during his annual mileage record attempt, then it’s good enough for me.

My choice too. All the convenience of a saddle bag but rock solid mounting on a rack. And anything you can't fit in that is perhaps something you should be leaving at home.

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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby whoof » 7 Oct 2018, 8:36pm

I've ridden Audaxes with a saddle pack similar to the Ortleib one you linked to. It's very versatile as I've used it in 4 different bikes without the need for saddle loops or supports. Pack it in a logical order with things you'll need first going in last. Spare batteries for my Garmin go in first as I probably won't need them, a cheese and pickle roll in last. If you pack similar things in different carrier bags say one for clothes another for food it can help finding stuff.

Will you look cool with it? No, it's a bag sticking out the back of your saddle in line with your bike. But it looks no worse than a Carradice saddle bag, pannier or rack bag.

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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby eileithyia » 7 Oct 2018, 8:52pm

As others, totally variable on the event, time of year and expected weather conditions.

Summer 600's have taken a couple of long sleeved helly hansen vests for cooler overnight segments, with short sleeved cycle top, arm warmers and leg warmers, gilet and light race type cape.... are adequate to keep warm and reasonably dry...

Summer 200 no more than I would take for any day ride. Winter 200, well am probably wearing most of it anyway.
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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby mjr » 7 Oct 2018, 10:19pm

The utility cyclist wrote:Quite, have a fat sausage hanging off your seatpost isn't something that appeals to me but can see why they're useful for racing type bikes without eyelets etc. That said you can buy a standard design pannier rack to a frame without eyelets easily enough and that doesn't involve P clips :D

And yet, you can't name or link one?
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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby The utility cyclist » 8 Oct 2018, 2:40am

mjr wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:Quite, have a fat sausage hanging off your seatpost isn't something that appeals to me but can see why they're useful for racing type bikes without eyelets etc. That said you can buy a standard design pannier rack to a frame without eyelets easily enough and that doesn't involve P clips :D

And yet, you can't name or link one?

sigh, why not simply ask for some links instead of being so aggressive?? https://road.cc/content/review/249491-b ... ightweight is the latest effort
As it happens you could already fit a std pannier rack via the rear or front brake mount and use the converters that have been around since 30+ years ago.I still have a couple of pairs of different types
rack mpounts.JPG

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/blackburn-local ... nier-rack/
Old Man Mountain racks have been around for a while
Tubus do low rider brackets http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tubus-lm-1-moun ... o-eyelets/
Any other homework you'd like me to do for you?

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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby mjr » 8 Oct 2018, 8:09am

The utility cyclist wrote:sigh, why not simply ask for some links instead of being so aggressive?? https://road.cc/content/review/249491-b ... ightweight is the latest effort

Exasperated not aggressive. Why not post a whole comment instead of being so supercilious?

Anyway, that rack hooks over the QR not to the frame as claimed, and hooking to the brake bolt makes it rarely useful on non-rim brakes. The tubus brackets don't look much better than P-clips and only for round stays (or near enough round). The link given doesn't make it clear how the Old Man Mountain attaches but http://www.oldmanmountain.com shows P clips!

Any other homework you'd like me to do for you?

No, just your own, enough to make it clear that things are not quite as described.
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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby foxyrider » 8 Oct 2018, 9:21am

The utility cyclist wrote:
mjr wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:Quite, have a fat sausage hanging off your seatpost isn't something that appeals to me but can see why they're useful for racing type bikes without eyelets etc. That said you can buy a standard design pannier rack to a frame without eyelets easily enough and that doesn't involve P clips :D

And yet, you can't name or link one?

sigh, why not simply ask for some links instead of being so aggressive?? https://road.cc/content/review/249491-b ... ightweight is the latest effort
As it happens you could already fit a std pannier rack via the rear or front brake mount and use the converters that have been around since 30+ years ago.I still have a couple of pairs of different types
rack mpounts.JPG
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/blackburn-local ... nier-rack/
Old Man Mountain racks have been around for a while
Tubus do low rider brackets http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tubus-lm-1-moun ... o-eyelets/
Any other homework you'd like me to do for you?


FWIW I have a set up for my carbon plaything that will take a full size rack without resorting to p clips or brake bolts. Tubus Q/R mounted lower set up with an integrated rack mount seat clamp. Easy to fit rack or remove as required - I used the set up for a 3 week alpine tour.

OTOH I also have a seatpost mounted 12l Ortlieb bag for when I can't be bothered with or need more capacity. That said, beyond a seat pack i'll happily do 200km plus rides without additional bags of kit.
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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby Vitara » 10 Oct 2018, 2:35am

jamesxyz wrote:That's great, thanks all. I've done 200KM rides in the summer with only a small saddle pack as part of a group but I knew Id need something bigger for longer / colder rides.
ANyone got experience of this or something similar.? https://www.evanscycles.com/ortlieb-bik ... k-EV276883

I'd prefer this style to a traditional saddle pack.


Entirely your choice of course, I've tried the other options and have concluded that IMHO nothing really beats the practicality of a Carradice Saddle bag & although they look traditional, some may say dated, there are good reasons why they remain popular and still sell well today.

They also have good resale value if you get one and decide it's not what you want.

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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby Audax67 » 10 Oct 2018, 11:23am

+1 for Carradice. Super C Audax for 200, 300 & 400, Lowsaddle Longflap for 600 & PBP. Put extra straps on the flap to take wet rainjacket etc. I use an SQR block and strap a small toolbag under it, in front of the saddlebag.

The Super C Audax would do for 600 & PBP too if you didn't mind stinking a bit.
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Re: How much to take on an audax?

Postby althebike » 10 Oct 2018, 4:40pm

I used an alpkit koala 13l which fits to the saddle rails and seatpost. It got me through a 14 day tour this year, so should easily suffice for an audax.
IMO sleeker, lighter more aerodynamic and prettier than the old style saddle bags, which to their credit, have stood the test of time and are highly functional also.