Cunobelin wrote:londoncommuter0000 wrote:Cunobelin wrote:The guy is a prize (insert expletive) and the Police within their rights, and he is not only engineering the situation, but showing a total ignorance of what he is entitled to do. Had he been reasonable (once again) there would have been no conflict.
Also consider that he was filming at an MOD base not a Police Station, information that was deliberately omitted. There have been threats against Service Personnel and attacks by terrorist groups on Service Personnel.
Only two years ago at this very base:
They were reasonable and certainly correct question his actions and motives
As for bringing a chid along to deliberately use him as a pawn in his games, that says all you really need to know
Sorry - but what relevance does the above have?
The relevance is that this (insert expletive here) that the video referred to is the one about the "Police Station"and it is hiding a lot of information in order to promote his entitled snowflake ranting
He is NOT filming outside a Police Station as the video claims, but outside a Frontline Raf Base... RAF Marham
He forgets to mention that the was recorded in 2016 when the UK was already in an increased state of alert
He also forgets that this video was recorded closely following the attempted abduction of a Service person at the very site he chose, and the investigation was still continuing at this point
What I linked where the reasons why this (insert expletive) was appropriately stopped by the Police and asked what he was doing
He was was totally insensitive to the situation and deliberately provoking Police carrying out their role appropriately ... something he appears to have specifically chosen to do in a heightened and sensitive security situation
All of this is also relevant as if someone is willing plumb their he the depths that this (insert expletive) has gone to in order to be a self promoting dishonest Drama Queen on Facebook, then it must question the validity of the situation outside the School. One of the allegations being that he was asked by School Staff on the premises to identify himself
Are YOU happy for unidentified masked people on school grounds refusing to state heir identity or reason for being there?
Well, I don't see anything in your rather over-excited rant above, that invalidates any of the legal points which I had previously expressed. However, I shall just answer the last question, and that is of course no - someone walking into a school wearing a mask would quite naturally be challenged by school staff. I believe that he was indeed, challenged.
The altercation in question, however (we're still talking about the original film, aren't we?) takes place on the street. There is no prohibition on wearing a mask in public, and so of course, the policeman's actions were - as I have already stated - unlawful.
Even though the individual in question had been inside the school, at the point that the police officer arrived, he was in public, and the conditions for a stop still apply. I do not believe that the test for terrorism, offensive weapon etc., were met.
Of course, when the cyclist/pedestrian asked if he was being detained, the officer quite rightly said no and the former then left. But for most people, the fact that a police officer is asking you questions, means that you will not walk away - such is the programming that we all receive, to obey the police under all circumstances.
I suspect that it is the last-named factor above, that is causing so much ire among the commentators on this site.