RLJ deaths stat
RLJ deaths stat
Interesting letter in the Times Motoring section; anyone know if this is true?
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Don't suppose Mr Day of Marsh Baldon* reads this forum??
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(I tweeted this first, just as the easiest way to get it online!)
*he is quite near me - but it's sliiiightly too big a place to just go knocking on doors
Re: RLJ deaths stat
That statistic doesn't surprise me in the least.
I've often reasoned that a cyclist RLJing would by virtue of his/her vulnerability not do so in the face of traffic crossing on the opposite green light but would only do so when the opposing road is clear and safe
I've often reasoned that a cyclist RLJing would by virtue of his/her vulnerability not do so in the face of traffic crossing on the opposite green light but would only do so when the opposing road is clear and safe
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But motorists don't jump red lights. There must be some mistake in these figures.
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MikeF wrote:But motorists don't jump red lights. There must be some mistake in these figures.
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Yes they do, observed one yesterday
If one spent a bit of time observing them one would see many, when the lights are changing to red. A moment later cyclists and walkers get green
When cycling often the only safe thing to do is to go a moment before one has green
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In Edinburgh the lights in the city centre give bicycles priority for a short period before cars are allowed to proceed. Works for me ...
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You must be mistaken.Cyril Haearn wrote:MikeF wrote:But motorists don't jump red lights. There must be some mistake in these figures.
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Yes they do, observed one yesterday
If one spent a bit of time observing them one would see many, when the lights are changing to red.
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Sounds a very good idea.landsurfer wrote:In Edinburgh the lights in the city centre give bicycles priority for a short period before cars are allowed to proceed. Works for me ...
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Re: RLJ deaths stat
MikeF wrote:RLJ for cyclists can be legal in Paris.
Not only Paris.
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Re: RLJ deaths stat
Motorists rules are not always appropriate or safe for non motorists, the way things are gov and plod are still working from outmoded and illogical (sometimes downright dangerous) rules and refuse to budge because they're either too thick, too stubborn, or have an agenda. Personally I think it's all three
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landsurfer wrote:In Edinburgh the lights in the city centre give bicycles priority for a short period before cars are allowed to proceed. Works for me ...
Have you any more detail? I live in Edinburgh, and don't recognize this description!
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rfryer wrote:landsurfer wrote:In Edinburgh the lights in the city centre give bicycles priority for a short period before cars are allowed to proceed. Works for me ...
Have you any more detail? I live in Edinburgh, and don't recognize this description!
And I work in Edinburgh and see it every day, especially where I work in the Haymarket area.
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landsurfer wrote:And I work in Edinburgh and see it every day, especially where I work in the Haymarket area.
I'll try and cycle round there this week. I've not noticed any cycle-specific signalling around Princes Street.
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reohn2 wrote:That statistic doesn't surprise me in the least.
I've often reasoned that a cyclist RLJing would by virtue of his/her vulnerability not do so in the face of traffic crossing on the opposite green light but would only do so when the opposing road is clear and safe
Yes!!!
I've absolutely no reason to doubt it from an experience/logic sense - I guess I just wanted to confirm it matches any official source. (I tried google .. to no avail ... )
[2 birds 1 stone/scone: motorists bang on about RLJ, and recently a few have started banging on about cyclists endangering pedestrians ]
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MikeF wrote:Sounds a very good idea.landsurfer wrote:In Edinburgh the lights in the city centre give bicycles priority for a short period before cars are allowed to proceed. Works for me ...
They do in London, change for cyclists a couple of seconds before they change for motorised vehicles.