cyclist knocked of headon with car cutting corners while turning into side road

[mercalia]

cyclist knocked of headon with car cutting corners while turning into side road.
I would have wanted the car driver prosecuted. surly the bike wheel was a right-off?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-berkshire-47749660/windsor-dashcam-footage-captures-car-hitting-cyclist

[fastpedaller]

Very lenient of the cyclist to say what he said - I'd at least want a prosecution to happen. Inexcusable driving.

[Vantage]

I see this sort of driving so often that I frankly refuse to wait at the right side of the lane. Smack bang in the middle is where I stop and even then the numpties try to take off my front wheel at times.

[Mick F]

I see this sort of driving so often that I frankly refuse to wait at the right side of the lane. Smack bang in the middle is where I stop and even then the numpties try to take off my front wheel at times.

Me too.

I'm going to be accused of victim blaming now.
I wouldn't have positioned myself where he did. He was leaving himself open to being hit by an idiot driver.

[Bonefishblues]

I see this sort of driving so often that I frankly refuse to wait at the right side of the lane. Smack bang in the middle is where I stop and even then the numpties try to take off my front wheel at times.

Me too.

I'm going to be accused of victim blaming now.
I wouldn't have positioned myself where he did. He was leaving himself open to being hit by an idiot driver.

When I read the article the rider was saying that both he and the driver had learned a lesson IIRC.

[Paulatic]

Mercalia knows I love the way he finds BBC stories days after it’s done and dusted

The cyclist "That Berkshire Cyclist" had this to say

[Spinners]

I see this sort of driving so often that I frankly refuse to wait at the right side of the lane. Smack bang in the middle is where I stop and even then the numpties try to take off my front wheel at times.

Me three.

[reohn2]

I think it's fair to say that driving standards in the UK are diabolical,but with a depleted policeforce and and practical free for all on the roads as a result it's only to be expected.
I ride very defensively and expect the unexpected at anytime,nothing surprises on UK roads these days

[Bonefishblues]

I have had 3 occasions in the car over the last couple of weeks where I have had to stop mid-corner. At least one party was driving defensively!

...but the schadenfreude was strong a couple of months ago when the corner-cutter avoided me and ended up fishtailing and eventually came to rest on top of a hedge

[thirdcrank]

It's my impression that an increasing number of drivers turn into junctions without first being in a position to see into the road they are entering. As a pedestrian, I recently came close to being knocked down in the gutter by a driver who turned at speed into a side road completely on his wrong side of the road. ie Had there been a cyclist waiting to turn right in a similar position to the rider in the vid, they'd have been safely passed on their nearside. It's also my impression that an increasing number of drivers approaching junctions on minor roads so in a way which enables to maintain speed and only brake if forced to do so to avoid a crash. If they are intending to turn right into the major road, a combination of that speed and a tactic of positioning their vehicle to make it difficult for drivers on the major road to turn right first, helps bully their way out.

All of this now passes as OK.

[Bonefishblues]

It's my impression that an increasing number of drivers turn into junctions without first being in a position to see into the road they are entering. As a pedestrian, I recently came close to being knocked down in the gutter by a driver who turned at speed into a side road completely on his wrong side of the road. ie Had there been a cyclist waiting to turn right in a similar position to the rider in the vid, they'd have been safely passed on their nearside. It's also my impression that an increasing number of drivers approaching junctions on minor roads so in a way which enables to maintain speed and only brake if forced to do so to avoid a crash. If they are intending to turn right into the major road, a combination of that speed and a tactic of positioning their vehicle to make it difficult for drivers on the major road to turn right first, helps bully their way out.

All of this now passes as OK.

You missed the bit whereby the speed of approach means that the driver on the major road isn't sure that they are going to stop, and consequently has to brake.

[661-Pete]

From the cyclist's statement:

The driver is to go on a driver's awareness course.

That's exactly what happened to my 'rogue driver' who knocked me off back in 2012 - turning right across my path. I presume that means the police were involved in this case - I believe only they can refer a motorist to one of these courses.

Seems a reasonable outcome at first sight - but how efficacious are these courses? I was satisfied with the judgement in my case, but others have since said that they have little or no effect on the unreconstructed idiots...

[peetee]

Two things going on here:
1. The driver should have been able to see the cyclist above the other car way before he turned.
2. The driver cut the corner and could have therefore collided with a vehicle if it was approaching to turn right.

To my mind that is driving without due care and attention, driving recklessly, driving under the influence or a combination of.

[robing]

Should be a prosecution, end of. Careless driving minimum.
Plus the cyclist should claim for any possible personal injury and damage to bike, clothing, equipment etc.

There is a tendency to say we wouldn't have done that etc out himself in a vulnerable position but we shouldn't have to put up with dangerous numpties like this behind the wheel. A prosecution plus claims for costs are the only way they will learn from their mistakes.

[Bonefishblues]

Should be a prosecution, end of. Careless driving minimum.
Plus the cyclist should claim for any possible personal injury and damage to bike, clothing, equipment etc.

There is a tendency to say we wouldn't have done that etc out himself in a vulnerable position but we shouldn't have to put up with dangerous numpties like this behind the wheel. A prosecution plus claims for costs are the only way they will learn from their mistakes.

Yep, prosecute him, he will have learned nothing from the incident and will continue to be a menace.