mjr wrote:while cyclists jumping obligatory reds may be annoying and I don't defend it, it pales into insignificance compared to the numbers and consequences of motorists doing it
Consequences? I totally agree.
Numbers? I really must be living in a different country because I never see motorists going through on red and I speak as someone who drove as part of their job for about 35 years.
Spinners must be living in a different country/world to me, I stop at at least fifty sets of lights a day, half of them have a cycle box at the front for my safety, nearly every single one has a car in it that's crossed the red light and stop line to be there. I use a cycle path to cross a major roundabout several times a day, vehicles regularly accelerate through the lights and cross on red, sometimes well after the pedestrian crossing is green.
I do a lot of urban riding (Deliveroo) I regularly go through red lights, most often when turning left when I can see no one else is doing so, or on otherwise empty roads, or on some junctions I'll bypass them by hopping onto the pavement. The op can hate all they want, but they'd be better off directing that anger at the planners who've not considered anyone other than the motorist. Or at the very least doing as all serious commentators have and putting it in proportion to the risk involved, then save the hate for those doing the killing and maiming every day.
EDIT - This from the West Midlands Police blog sums it up for me
Cyclists don’t cause us, as an organisation, problems, that’s because they aren’t causing our communities problems, they aren’t killing nearly 100 people on our regions roads as mechanically propelled vehicles currently do. Yes we do get complaints of the “nuisance” variety, pavement cycling, some anti-social behaviour (usually yobs on bikes rather than “cyclists”), red light running etc. but you get the idea, most peoples interpretation of “1st world problems” or the “modern day blues”, nothing that’s a priority for a force like our own in a modern day society. Bad cycling is an “irritant” to the wider community rather than a danger, and maybe an improvement in infrastructure and policing may alieve many of the reasons that cause a very small minority of cyclists to be an “irritant”