Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

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Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby skyhawk » 14 Aug 2019, 11:07am

Will there come a time when all bikes will have motors and buying a non electric bike will be either next to impossible or used only
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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby reohn2 » 14 Aug 2019, 11:08am

No.
EDIT:- And furthermore as e-bike use increases as it surely will and as a matter of course increasing overall bike use,infrastructure will need to increase as a result and there'll follow a critical mass that government both local and national will not be able to ignore.
I see the e-bike as a saviour of cycling not a curse,of course there'll be some downsides but nowhere near as much as there is now.
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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby squeaker » 14 Aug 2019, 11:11am

reohn2 wrote:No.

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Freddie » 14 Aug 2019, 11:21am

They'll always be more expensive than a regular bikes and there will always be people that enjoy the exercise/quiet of cycling to not want a motor.

Speaking of quiet, a couple came past me on relatively recent carbon bikes and the cassette hub was making an awful racket, couldn't put up with that.

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Cugel » 14 Aug 2019, 1:43pm

skyhawk wrote:Will there come a time when all bikes will have motors and buying a non electric bike will be either next to impossible or used only


Depends on the degree and force of the adverts. If enough sheep-peep take them up, we will then be told that, "No one wants a non e-bike. I've told that to 28 people asking for an old-fashioned bike today".

It'll start with Le Tour being on e-bikes, "to make it more of an exciting spectacle". MAMILS and faux-racers of every ilk & tittle will then demand one. The bike industry will chuckle gleefully and sell them like hot cakes.

Cugel, resisting one so far despite having to grovel & suffer on the ladywife's electrified back wheel.

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby whoof » 14 Aug 2019, 1:51pm

Do you mean in the same way that the invention of the motor boat brought about the end of swimming, sailing and rowing? Or that the advent of the mobility scooter has resulted in no one other than a few extremist ramblers walking?

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Phil Fouracre » 14 Aug 2019, 4:16pm

Of course, obviously :-)
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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Ivor Tingting » 14 Aug 2019, 5:21pm

skyhawk wrote:Will there come a time when all bikes will have motors and buying a non electric bike will be either next to impossible or used only


People's selfishness and ignorance regarding conserving the planet knows no depths. Even if every single forest has been cut down and all we can see is rubbish all around us up to and beyond the horizon and into the seas, landscapes destroyed for mining to dig out the raw materials to make the motors and batteries for these lazEEEE-bikes, people would still buy them as they are lazy and selfish.

We had it in our grasp, the humble bicycle, but no the greed and laziness of people had to ruin it. Look what has happened in China. Literally huge mountains of abandoned redundant surplus to requirement bicycles.

The same happened to sail and the clippers when steam ships came in which also died a death when aviation started. Now most of our cargo is moved by huge diesel powered supertankers. Sail died a death a long long long time ago. Traditional cycling ALL YOUR OWN EFFORT will go the same way. People just don't care. It's depressing and upsetting.
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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby reohn2 » 14 Aug 2019, 5:30pm

Ivor Tingting wrote:
skyhawk wrote:Will there come a time when all bikes will have motors and buying a non electric bike will be either next to impossible or used only


People's selfishness and ignorance regarding conserving the planet knows no depths. Even if every single forest has been cut down and all we can see is rubbish all around us up to and beyond the horizon and into the seas, landscapes destroyed for mining to dig out the raw materials to make the motors and batteries for these lazEEEE-bikes, people would still buy them as they are 888888888888 lazy and selfish.

We had it in our grasp, the humble bicycle, but no the greed and laziness of people had to ruin it. Look what has happened in China. Literally huge mountains of abandoned redundant surplus to requirement bicycles.

The same happened to sail and the clippers when steam ships came in which also died a death when aviation started. Now most of our cargo is moved by huge diesel powered supertankers. Sail died a death a long long long time ago. Traditional cycling ALL YOUR OWN EFFORT will go the same way. People just don't care. It's depressing and upsetting.


I like to see a well argued and thought out point,however that wasn't it :roll:
What of the the electric light you turned on as it went dark last night,the warm water you washed in this morning,the window you looked through to the world outside,the dwelling you live in,the food you eat and the delivery system that enabled you to enjoy it,the clothes on your back,the computer you typed your acrid reply on this thread,the very bicycle you ride and claim to be so much better?
Where do you think the raw materials came from ,cloud cuckoo land?
Or were they mined and extracted or grown from the earth we live on and manufactured into what you need for a pleasant life?

You appear to have a very blinkered view of the world you live in,one that shuts out the truth to suit your own misaligned,jaundiced and skewed attitude to anyone who disagrees.
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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Pete Owens » 14 Aug 2019, 5:42pm

No - In the same way that mopeds never did. The original mopeds were just power assisted bicycles in the way ebikes are now until they morphed into small motorbikes.

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Cugel » 14 Aug 2019, 5:46pm

Ivor Tingting wrote:
skyhawk wrote:Will there come a time when all bikes will have motors and buying a non electric bike will be either next to impossible or used only


People's selfishness and ignorance regarding conserving the planet knows no depths. Even if every single forest has been cut down and all we can see is rubbish all around us up to and beyond the horizon and into the seas, landscapes destroyed for mining to dig out the raw materials to make the motors and batteries for these lazEEEE-bikes, people would still buy them as they are just so firkin lazy and selfish.

We had it in our grasp, the humble bicycle, but no the greed and laziness of people had to ruin it. Look what has happened in China. Literally huge mountains of abandoned redundant surplus to requirement bicycles.

The same happened to sail and the clippers when steam ships came in which also died a death when aviation started. Now most of our cargo is moved by huge diesel powered supertankers. Sail died a death a long long long time ago. Traditional cycling ALL YOUR OWN EFFORT will go the same way. People just don't care. It's depressing and upsetting.


I have sent you some clay tablets and a stylus so you don't have to use the lecky involved with that computer thing, the servers, the interweb and so forth. In return you could perhaps sent me details of your own lecky-avoiding procedures. Do you watch the tele whilst turning a large hamster wheel generator quite vigorously, for example? Perhaps you do the ironing by lying supine in a creased T-shirt? One only hopes you grew the cotton in the back garden and wove that T-shirt yoursen!

Cugel, enjoying your rants.

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby mercalia » 14 Aug 2019, 6:13pm

yep when we see the Tour de France done on ebikes? :wink:

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby rjb » 14 Aug 2019, 6:26pm

At the speed rail fares are increasing there must come a point when commuters will switch to electric bikes. :shock:
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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby al_yrpal » 14 Aug 2019, 6:44pm

In 2012 I visited China visiting several cities including Beijing, Xian, Shanghai and HK. On two wheels Electric bikes were almost universal and in all that time I only saw a handful of conventional cyclists. So, for commuters and getting about cities I think electric bikes will increase and become more common here. Obviously we have a different culture and many cycle not only for convenience but for fitness too. If you twiddle the settings correctly you can get a decent workout on an electric bike and cover greater distances with less effort.

Its funny, but visiting several Vietnamese cities at the same time, petrol fueled scooters was the predominant means of transport?

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Re: Is electric the end of the bike as we know it

Postby Oldjohnw » 14 Aug 2019, 6:47pm

I hope that Mr Tingling is not suggesting that we all fly to China to check out the electric bikes.

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