Lorry pushes car on A40

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby Bonefishblues » 17 Dec 2019, 11:11pm

He knew.

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Dec 2019, 12:53am

atlas_shrugged wrote:> The car was so close and low down to front of very tall truck it was not in view of the truck driver.

So should we agree many trucks are only able to see about 60% of the road?

No, it's twaddle, it's drivers who don't bother looking!
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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Dec 2019, 12:55am

hemo wrote:Why has the subject title been changed ?
I assume mods have done this.

The title is incorrect whatever it was before, it should be Royal Mail Driver endangers car occupants due to not having a scooby :twisted:

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby alexnharvey » 18 Dec 2019, 7:10am

I think that's called a punishment push.

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby Vorpal » 18 Dec 2019, 9:16am

hemo wrote:Why has the subject title been changed ?
I assume mods have done this.

I changed it because the title was vague.
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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby brynpoeth » 18 Dec 2019, 9:33am

Having mirrors is one thing
Using them is quite another :?
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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby james01 » 18 Dec 2019, 11:58am

I remember reading of a suggested redesign of truck cabs, placing the driver down nearer to normal street level - as already seen in many types of buses and coaches. This gives the driver a far better awareness of immediate surroundings, especially in urban situations. It also reduces his sense of remote invulnerability when sitting far above ordinary road users.

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby bigjim » 18 Dec 2019, 1:33pm

Bin wagons are this design.
Nothing left to prove.

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby foxyrider » 18 Dec 2019, 7:54pm

bigjim wrote:Bin wagons are this design.



I have also seen a Mercedes tipper truck with a low Econic cab - its possible but the truck mfrs seem to be on a willy waving exercise to make ever bigger and higher hgv's
Convention? what's that then?
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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby reohn2 » 19 Dec 2019, 3:22pm

Bonefishblues wrote:He knew.

He surely must have known
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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby Bonefishblues » 19 Dec 2019, 3:50pm

reohn2 wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:He knew.

He surely must have known

Of course he did.

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby Postboxer » 19 Dec 2019, 11:49pm

Why would he know? Why would he be checking his mirror to see if there's anything right in front of him when he's going along a straight road, into the road he can see is clear?

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby Debs » 20 Dec 2019, 2:11am

It's possible the front mirror reflected the black roof of the trapped car, and being so close only showed as blackness so more difficult to notice in corner of eye.
Also, the truck in question is the tractor unit without a trailer, so it has rather a lot of spare torque power. It obviously doesn't have any difficulty pushing a car sideways.

The reaction of the truck driver is one of surprise, and concern for the car occupants.

However, would have thought the truck driver would of heard the tyre squealing noise and smelt the burning rubber :P

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Re: Lorry pushes car on A40

Postby John Holiday » 20 Dec 2019, 10:22am

We recently visited the yard of a local heavy goods company and both drivers & cyclists learnt a lot about visibility or the lack of.
From the cab,it was horrifying to see how large areas around the vehicle were invisible to the drivers, despite a variety of mirrors.
Similarly it was revealing to the cyclists how "invisible " they were when near the vehicle and especially if they foolishly tried to ride up the near side of the truck.
Take care out there.