I wonder if the ones vehemently preaching against hi vis are in some doubt about their own all black attire. It's like you need my approval to continue wearing it -- you don't -- but if you were confident your kit is adequate for the job or as some put it not required to do the job of keeping you visible, you wouldn't be defending it for nearly 40 pages, you'd simply give me a fools pardon and move on.
NO - because there is a significant effort being put in by people like you... who think that anything that affects other people is worth it if it saves one life - but back down from that when the effects are on them (driving helmets would save more lives, walking helmets, drinking helmets...).
I don't give a fools pardon to those who are attempting to create a fascist state anywhere in the world, I point out their errors - despite their stupidity.
For an example of said tenacity in the face of ignorance please see the rockets can't work thread.