mjr wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:I'm yet to see a council put a road around a telegraph pole such that it obstructs one lane, or install some 'path' lighting by putting a lamppost in the middle of a carriageway.
I can think of several examples of both, but they are far rarer than in cycleways, they're gradually getting kerb islands and other protection built up around them as motorists demolish them and they tend to be middle of a carriageway but between lanes, rather than middle of a lane - whereas I feel that we're seeing more of the blasted things getting moved from separation verges into the outside edge of cycleways just so they're further from potential motorist-demolishers. I agree with you completely that this seems unfair and wrongheaded.[XAP]Bob wrote:Bollards and armco by design won't be on a right of way (they might serve to remark the extend of said ROW.
I'm not sure that's right. Armco is often set on posts set into the road surface (which OK you then can't drive on, but you used to be able to before the Armco went in - you can still walk on it if you're determined, stepping round/over the posts) and bollards are often used to filter ROWs, to allow small vehicles through but not prohibited large ones, and they have to be on the ROW to do that.
From the perspective of the larger vehicle (which is what all highways engineers seem to have) the bollard defines the end of a ROW... screw anyone who isn’t in a car, they don’t matter.