Current Riding Situation.

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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby arnsider » 17 Jun 2020, 11:08am

The day I have to go to the expense and hassle of riding everywhere on film is the day I stop cycling.
Granted, film footage is useful in conflicts, but some cyclists are taking things far too far.
You Tube is littered with short clips of cyclists getting into spats with drivers, careering along, far too close to the culprits vehicle, shouting their threepence worth of abuse and bombast, then expecting the police to view them as paragons of road safety.
Riding with a head cam is tantramount to looking for trouble. Drivers are fly for this indeed London taxi drivers see it as sport.
My counsel would be to stay clear of cameras, unless of course your trying to sell them as I suspect some of the contributors here are.

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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby Cyril Haearn » 17 Jun 2020, 12:30pm

Oldjohnw wrote:One says make eye contact and one says don't.

I wonder why no eye contact?

I have explained this before elsewhere, never trust a morton! Avoiding eye contact could keep them guessing, might be worth weaving a bit, then a half-intelligent driver would assume one was drunk and be especially careful
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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby fastpedaller » 17 Jun 2020, 1:50pm

I always try to get eye contact, maybe to give 'confidence' they have seen me, but also because I consider they then see me as a person, rather than 'just a bike'

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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby Jdsk » 17 Jun 2020, 2:26pm

Me too.

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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby mjr » 17 Jun 2020, 2:44pm

Grandad wrote:
Although it says “Helmet Cam” it can be mounted on the handlebars.

Will doing this create a less steady picture?

That depends on how much vibration reaches your handlebars, how much the mount you use damps it (my original U-clamp one was rubbish, but the ball-based one I use now is better) and how much your helmet wobbles. All you need to do is reduce it enough to be within range of the camera image-stabilisation.
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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby xerxes » 17 Jun 2020, 3:10pm

Golflad wrote: we moved out to observe the 2 metre distancing

That is totally unnecessary. There is next to zero chance of passing on or catching virus from such a fleeting 'contact' .

The same applies to pedestrians who step off the pavement into the road when passing other pedestrians. Very dangerous. But if getting too close still worries you then just take a deep breath and hold it for few seconds until you're well past them.

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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby mjr » 17 Jun 2020, 3:28pm

xerxes wrote:
Golflad wrote: we moved out to observe the 2 metre distancing

That is totally unnecessary. There is next to zero chance of passing on or catching virus from such a fleeting 'contact' .

The same applies to pedestrians who step off the pavement into the road when passing other pedestrians. Very dangerous. But if getting too close still worries you then just take a deep breath and hold it for few seconds until you're well past them.

Far from "totally unnecessary", a cyclist should not be passing within 2m of a walker when there's another option, even in normal times!

And I'm still moving into the road when possible because there is a high risk some walkers will fall into the drain (the local name for a ditch, dyke, rhyne...) rather than have me pass slow within 2m of them. It's not dangerous if you look before you move and the road is clear.
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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby rmurphy195 » 17 Jun 2020, 4:08pm

mjr wrote:
xerxes wrote:
Golflad wrote: we moved out to observe the 2 metre distancing

That is totally unnecessary. There is next to zero chance of passing on or catching virus from such a fleeting 'contact' .

The same applies to pedestrians who step off the pavement into the road when passing other pedestrians. Very dangerous. But if getting too close still worries you then just take a deep breath and hold it for few seconds until you're well past them.

Far from "totally unnecessary", a cyclist should not be passing within 2m of a walker when there's another option, even in normal times!

And I'm still moving into the road when possible because there is a high risk some walkers will fall into the drain (the local name for a ditch, dyke, rhyne...) rather than have me pass slow within 2m of them. It's not dangerous if you look before you move and the road is clear.


Totally agree, social distancing is all about reducing the risk for you and others, whether or not you feel there's very little risk, that may not be the case for people you are passing. (After all a walker might sneeze just as you go past brushing shoulders). And "wide and slow" around walkers when you are riding is what you should be doing in any case - after all, its what I would expect to give cyclists (and walkers) when I'm driving. Helps maintain your observation and anticipation skills which are all-important!
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Re: Current Riding Situation.

Postby mjr » 17 Jun 2020, 4:19pm

rmurphy195 wrote:And "wide and slow" around walkers when you are riding is what you should be doing in any case - after all, its what I would expect to give cyclists (and walkers) when I'm driving.

Wide or slow, surely? If they're 7m wide of me, I don't much care if they're doing 30mph, but if they're within 2m, then jogging speed maximum, please!
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