Canal towpath petition

Commuting, Day rides, Audax, Incidents, etc.
User avatar
tykeboy2003
Posts: 1090
Joined: 19 Jul 2010, 2:51pm
Location: Swadlincote, South Derbyshire

Canal towpath petition

Postby tykeboy2003 » 24 Jul 2020, 1:36pm

Hi, I've started a government petition to get the Government to fund improvements to canal towpaths to make them into off-road cycle routes. Feel free to sign it.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/320460

philvantwo
Posts: 972
Joined: 8 Dec 2012, 6:08pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby philvantwo » 24 Jul 2020, 1:48pm

Make towpaths 6ft wide and tarmac them?
Can't see that happening.........ever!

Pete Owens
Posts: 1829
Joined: 7 Jul 2008, 12:52am

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby Pete Owens » 24 Jul 2020, 9:13pm

And 2m is not wide enough for a 2-way route shared with pedestrians.

Jdsk
Posts: 1329
Joined: 5 Mar 2019, 5:42pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby Jdsk » 24 Jul 2020, 9:16pm

Could you correct the spelling of "complement"? Small things like that can put some people off.

Jonathan

Tangled Metal
Posts: 6856
Joined: 13 Feb 2015, 8:32pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby Tangled Metal » 24 Jul 2020, 9:23pm

Make them into a good resource for all non-motorised transport plus e-bikes. Why limit to cyclists?

Come to think about it the canal near us has a towpath you can walk or cycle on already. It's often used to commute to Lancaster from the villages along its path by people who don't like cycling the excellent route that's the A6. Having said that I used to walk the Rufford branch of the Leeds Liverpool canal. It wasn't great for walking in some stretches when I was a kid. So I expect canal access is not at the same level across the network.

I wish you success but personally canals often follow gradients so are generally not a very direct route anywhere. IMHO cycling provision should be focused on functional as in utility use for people who might turn to the bike to make short journeys if there were good routes. I think canals are often more about leisure riding. Valuable in itself but just as road improvements are about people and goods getting somewhere monies intended for cycling infrastructure should centre on the equivalent type of cycle provisions. Commuter routes, between residential areas and schools/shopping, etc.

ratherbeintobago
Posts: 456
Joined: 5 Dec 2010, 6:31pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby ratherbeintobago » 24 Jul 2020, 9:30pm

Locally we have an issue where the Council response to any request for cycling infrastructure is met with ‘but the canal towpath’.

Weren’t there big issues in e.g. London with traffic volume on towpaths which just don’t have the capacity, leading to articles like this?

User avatar
simonineaston
Posts: 3181
Joined: 9 May 2007, 1:06pm
Location: Live & work in Briz'l

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby simonineaston » 24 Jul 2020, 9:37pm

Who else remembers the days when you needed a "licence" to cycle on canal towpaths, which you simply downloaded from the BWB website and printed off? :lol:
ttfn, Simon in Easton
(currently enjoying a Moulton TSR & a nano Brompton...)

ratherbeintobago
Posts: 456
Joined: 5 Dec 2010, 6:31pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby ratherbeintobago » 24 Jul 2020, 9:40pm

simonineaston wrote:Who else remembers the days when you needed a "licence" to cycle on canal towpaths, which you simply downloaded from the BWB website and printed off? :lol:


Me!

User avatar
simonineaston
Posts: 3181
Joined: 9 May 2007, 1:06pm
Location: Live & work in Briz'l

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby simonineaston » 24 Jul 2020, 10:00pm

I went so far as signing the bloomin' thing and laminating it! Never got asked for it once!! Mind you, I did live on a boat,so I was a regular user :lol:
ttfn, Simon in Easton
(currently enjoying a Moulton TSR & a nano Brompton...)

jgurney
Posts: 1039
Joined: 10 May 2009, 8:34am

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby jgurney » 24 Jul 2020, 10:24pm

philvantwo wrote: tarmac them?

And, presumably, install mooring bollards all alone them, as boaters would no longer be able to drive mooring stakes into the ground as they common do at present.

millimole
Posts: 596
Joined: 18 Feb 2007, 5:41pm
Location: Leicester

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby millimole » 25 Jul 2020, 9:15am

Nothing is free, and everything comes with a cost - how will this be funded? Or should I ask how much will you be prepared to pay for this? Do you envisage a 'cycling towpath tax' and would this require displaying a disc to show you've paid?

What about the heritage of bridges? Will you demand these centuries old structures be demolished to permit construction of these paths, or do you see flyovers?

Where do anglers, boaters heritage and wildlife come into this vision?

The Canal and River Trust promote canals ides as havens away from the hustle and bustle of daily life, somewhere to find a bit of tranquility and to reconnect with nature. Towpaths aren't roads.

Valuable routes, yes, but one's where one can slow down, enjoy the space, meet other people and enjoy cycling.

In case you wonder, I won't be signing.
Leicester; Riding my Hetchins since 1971; Audaxing on my Dawes; Riding to work on a Decathlon Hoprider

Tangled Metal
Posts: 6856
Joined: 13 Feb 2015, 8:32pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby Tangled Metal » 25 Jul 2020, 9:33am

Basically leisure facilities then?

I won't be signing neither. There's got to be better options for the money. Winding canals or more direct routes for cycles? Which one is better?

User avatar
tykeboy2003
Posts: 1090
Joined: 19 Jul 2010, 2:51pm
Location: Swadlincote, South Derbyshire

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby tykeboy2003 » 25 Jul 2020, 9:37am

simonineaston wrote:Who else remembers the days when you needed a "licence" to cycle on canal towpaths, which you simply downloaded from the BWB website and printed off? :lol:


Me too.

Tangled Metal
Posts: 6856
Joined: 13 Feb 2015, 8:32pm

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby Tangled Metal » 25 Jul 2020, 9:47am

It wasn't that long ago. I got told you needed one water moving into my current house next to the canal. I'm fact several years after moving in if say 15 years ago or less.

User avatar
tykeboy2003
Posts: 1090
Joined: 19 Jul 2010, 2:51pm
Location: Swadlincote, South Derbyshire

Re: Canal towpath petition

Postby tykeboy2003 » 25 Jul 2020, 9:48am

Thanks for the comments, I'm not sure if the petition can be amended to accommodate them though.

On the subject of funding, we're all prepared to pay for motorways which cost many hundreds of times more per mile than the modest sums that this would cost so why not divert a tiny proportion of that, after all it is still transport infrastructure. Mr Johnson professes to be pro cyclist after all.

Boaters would still be able to drive mooring spikes in if a small grassed over bit was left next to the canal, most canal towpaths are currently wide enough to allow for that. Where space is limited there would obviously have to be compromise.

There is no intention to convert tranquil canals into bustling transport hubs but convenient cycle ways to take cyclists off the roads where routes coincide.