jatindersangha wrote:Cowsham wrote:Anybody got a link to the motorcyclist tapping him on the head ?
Original thread here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=117261
just one question -- do you drive a car?
Cowsham wrote::lol: just one question -- do you drive a car?
jatindersangha wrote:Cowsham wrote::lol: just one question -- do you drive a car?
Yes, and strangely, regardless of how slowly I drive or my positioning, I'm not subjected to the same level of abuse from motorists as when I'm cycling.
Whilst driving, I've even been known to be courteous and considerate to cyclists
PDQ Mobile wrote: ... I think TC upthread was correct when he said you have been more of a "cyclist's champion" than others on here. Perhaps that remark was directed partially in my direction? ....
PDQ Mobile wrote:^^ cycle tramp.
I am not convinced (as should be obvious by now) and I think sometimes being in extreme primary can be counter productive.
I am not averse, you see, to being passed sensibly without forcing all the traffic over the line by any large margin.
It varies of course, depending on road width/markings/layout, general busyness, straightness of road, relative speeds or restricted vision.
Certainly my position is not set in stone but flexible at all times.
It also takes into account other road users.
They have their places to go, just as I do, and to enhance traffic flow is ok by me and I will promote if I can.
I have seldom experienced the problems the OP has, and he has them seemingly quite frequently.
Some close passes happen to me but only the odd one scarily so.
As for increasing visibility by being that extra half a meter or so out, I would say for reasons given upthread, only sometimes.
And often so marginally that other factors that induce peril are more relevant.
((See the thread about wearing black clothing in poor light conditions if you wish to complicate the debate further!!!))
For the quick witted the pavement or verge can be a place of refuge. IMHO
I gave the opinion that the OP's position made the white van fully enter the oncoming carriageway and that that van perhaps restricted the close pass driver's view.
The close pass driver then made a judgement error, partially at least, because his time to assess the oncoming car was shortened, he certainly appears to hesitate
I do not know this for certain of course, but it seems possible.
If that is the case then the OP's high primary is counterproductive for just everybody.
He has more than ample room to comfortably cycle along that road without subjecting himself to the gutter (sorry about that chaps!).
And still have "space to manoeuver" if he needs it.
Why not use more of that available space?
Being seen has certainly not helped in this instance?
PaulaT wrote:Cowsham wrote: we've been had mate. You wouldn't cycle like that and put it all on YouTube for all to see if you weren't having a laugh.
Sorry Cowsham but I don't think that's a fair conclusion at all. But I do think he's been a total drama queen over nothing.
tim-b wrote:HiThey don't need to understand why you are in primary - they just need to see that you are occupying the lane thus not offering them the opportunity to try to squeeze past.
Which for some is waving a red flag in front of a 1500kg bull. If they don't understand the need for the tactics that you are using, and they don't know the Bikeability "rules" then some won't play the game fairly
See this thread (link) for an example of a driver who you'd imagine knows at least some rules but allegedly ignored the most basic ones
jatindersangha wrote:Hi all,
Within this thread, these words were used to describe the driving of the Golf - "The car approaches slowly and cautiously giving room". "wasn't really a close pass".