Cycling and laws

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walexton
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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby walexton » 8 Sep 2020, 7:59am

In 2001 my niece who was 17 used to cycle her way home from the village pub 1 mile from home where she helped in the kitchen. She didn't have lights through summer as it was light enough and didn't really notice the incremental change to sunset times so didn't think about it.

Everything was fine for months until one day she was hit by a car and died because that road had a few bends in it and the driver had no visual warning there was a cyclist on the road.

Don't be a clot OP. It's not about law and blame, it's about self-preservation.

Our family was ripped apart by her death, and the driver and his partner who was in the car involved also have a heavy burden to carry for what was a genuine accident.

Don't be selfish or stupid because 'lights are ugly'.

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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby NUKe » 8 Sep 2020, 9:59am

walexton wrote:In 2001 my niece who was 17 used to cycle her way home from the village pub 1 mile from home where she helped in the kitchen. She didn't have lights through summer as it was light enough and didn't really notice the incremental change to sunset times so didn't think about it.

Everything was fine for months until one day she was hit by a car and died because that road had a few bends in it and the driver had no visual warning there was a cyclist on the road.

Don't be a clot OP. It's not about law and blame, it's about self-preservation.

Our family was ripped apart by her death, and the driver and his partner who was in the car involved also have a heavy burden to carry for what was a genuine accident.

Don't be selfish or stupid because 'lights are ugly'.

Said it all
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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby pwa » 8 Sep 2020, 10:08am

NUKe wrote:
walexton wrote:In 2001 my niece who was 17 used to cycle her way home from the village pub 1 mile from home where she helped in the kitchen. She didn't have lights through summer as it was light enough and didn't really notice the incremental change to sunset times so didn't think about it.

Everything was fine for months until one day she was hit by a car and died because that road had a few bends in it and the driver had no visual warning there was a cyclist on the road.

Don't be a clot OP. It's not about law and blame, it's about self-preservation.

Our family was ripped apart by her death, and the driver and his partner who was in the car involved also have a heavy burden to carry for what was a genuine accident.

Don't be selfish or stupid because 'lights are ugly'.

Said it all

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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby mjr » 8 Sep 2020, 10:10am

No, it hasn't said it all! Sorry for their loss but please don't only blame the victim. The driver deserves most of the blame for driving faster than they could stop within what they could see. It's tragic that a person was in the driver's path first, instead of a rock or fallen tree.
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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby DevonDamo » 8 Sep 2020, 1:25pm

DaveReading wrote:
emt15 wrote:But this is for vehicles not cycles! I don't want them because they look ugly and why do I have to shell money out on lights, it should be the drivers fault! I will look for some later but for now I am going to ride without lights as I have a cycle not a vehicle.

Great response, worth waiting for. And to think some people had you down as a troll.


If a forum troll illuminates themselves with posts like the OP's last one, surely it should be the responsibility of other forum users to spot and avoid them?

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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby mjr » 8 Sep 2020, 3:17pm

DevonDamo wrote:
If a forum troll illuminates themselves with posts like the OP's last one, surely it should be the responsibility of other forum users to spot and avoid them?

No, it's the responsibility of the mods to remove them, but that doesn't happen much here.

It absolutely must not be left unchallenged on something under Cycling UK's brand, else it'll be a scummy tabloid muckraking story tomorrow, like the hand signal one.

Minimal rebut. Don't engage.
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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby rob_wales » 19 Sep 2020, 10:34am

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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby Cyril Haearn » 19 Sep 2020, 11:00am

mjr wrote:
DevonDamo wrote:
If a forum troll illuminates themselves with posts like the OP's last one, surely it should be the responsibility of other forum users to spot and avoid them?

No, it's the responsibility of the mods to remove them, but that doesn't happen much here.

It absolutely must not be left unchallenged on something under Cycling UK's brand, else it'll be a scummy tabloid muckraking story tomorrow, like the hand signal one.

Minimal rebut. Don't engage.

What was the hand signal one?
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Re: Cycling and laws

Postby mjr » 19 Sep 2020, 3:16pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:
mjr wrote:It absolutely must not be left unchallenged on something under Cycling UK's brand, else it'll be a scummy tabloid muckraking story tomorrow, like the hand signal one.

Minimal rebut. Don't engage.

What was the hand signal one?

Seen on another site. https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/we-ar ... ts.266587/
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