Two metre clearance

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John Holiday
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Two metre clearance

Postby John Holiday » 3 Jan 2021, 4:01pm

Think that I may have discovered a way of persuading drivers to give riders plenty of clearance- tow a trailer!
Was out this afternoon litter picking on local Sustrans routes , but had to ride down busy roads to get there. Almost without exception was given plenty of clearance & some inquisitive looks. Only exception the impatient idiot in an Audi and another in a Seven Series BMW! How dare I delay them for a few seconds!

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby [XAP]Bob » 3 Jan 2021, 4:47pm

Trailers are nearly as effective as riding a 'bent. Towing a trailer with a 'bent is funny.
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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby Grandad » 4 Jan 2021, 1:36am

An upright trike has the same effect.

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby rareposter » 4 Jan 2021, 9:39am

Best one I had for that was riding along a busy road in the Peak District between two popular tourist villages and there was a police 4x4 parked up very prominently on a bend, visible from both ways. The road can occasionally be a bit of a racetrack and it's got a few bends that catch drivers out.

I was wearing good hi-vis and had front & rear flashing lights and had a helmet mounted light (not turned on) as I knew my ride would be finishing in darkness. The policeman waved as I passed and I'm guessing the drivers behind me must have thought that I was part of some sort of close-pass operation. Every one of them almost climbed the opposite pavement as they overtook safely and carefully and considerately.

The helmet-mounted light does actually look a lot like a camera so I think the whole ensemble worked with thee police presence to give drivers the idea that there might be consequences to their actions. Need that all the time!

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby John Holiday » 4 Jan 2021, 4:28pm

True regarding Police presence.
Not sure that many drivers are sufficiently observant to recognise a helmet mounted camera.
Certainly true about caution when riding trikes or recumbents, as I know from riding my Newton trike & Windcheetah recumbent.
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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby mumbojumbo » 4 Jan 2021, 4:38pm

Seems an odd way to enhance safety-youbcould tow facsimile police-car for a similar effect.i use an inflatable jacket which makes me a bout a metre wide,enough for my safety.

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby gaz » 4 Jan 2021, 5:45pm

John Holiday wrote:Think that I may have discovered a way of persuading drivers to give riders plenty of clearance- tow a trailer!

Glad it works for you, it certainly doesn't for me.
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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby rareposter » 5 Jan 2021, 3:51pm

John Holiday wrote:True regarding Police presence.
Not sure that many drivers are sufficiently observant to recognise a helmet mounted camera.


I appreciate this is very much anecdotal / my personal experience but I tend to start using the helmet-mounted light in winter time as a supplement to the bar light when I have rides I know or suspect will end past sunset and riding in daylight with the torch mounted on the helmet (but not turned on), it's a very obvious sticky-outy thing and it does *seem* to result in wider / more considerate passes.

I did once have a rider chase me down on a commute and ask about the camera as he was thinking of getting one and he was rather put out when I showed him it was just a light.

The close passes caught on camera are almost invariably from bike-mounted cameras which are much harder to spot especially from a car. Having a big cylindrical object on the helmet is obvious. You notice it on motorcyclists too, a lot have square Go-Pro type cameras mounted on one side of their helmet which again is very obvious.

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby tykeboy2003 » 6 Jan 2021, 8:51am

Just cough at them....

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby james01 » 6 Jan 2021, 10:05am

When my kids were little I regularly used a child-seat on the back of the bike. I've never experienced such wide passes - in fact I was sometimes the cause of embarrassing tailbacks when a particularly nervous driver (usually female) was terrified of passing. Years later and it's still tempting to carry a dummy baby on some of the busiest roads around here!

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby ChrisP100 » 19 Jan 2021, 11:30am

There is a section of my commute that runs alongside an single carriageway A-Road. It's a narrow dual use cycle/pedestrian path, with about 1.2m of grass verge between the path and the limit of the carriage way markings. Very often, I get passed a lot closer than 2m, despite being on the path.

To make matters worse, it is guaranteed that when it rains there will be standing water both on the path and the edge of the carriage way, and this morning was no exception. TWICE in the space of about 800m I got absolutely drenched by passing vehicles practically hugging the white line at the side of the road, despite no traffic coming in the opposite direction. I'd have been better off and safer riding on the road.

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby prestavalve » 19 Jan 2021, 12:54pm

james01 wrote:When my kids were little I regularly used a child-seat on the back of the bike. I've never experienced such wide passes ...


When I took my kid to nursery on the back of my bike in Malaysia, people used to draw up next to me at lights and berate me from the comfort of their MPV about how dangerous it was to ride with a child and how irresponsible I was being. Then they'd tear off at twice the speed limit and overtake without signalling.

Technically they were correct, but in a deeply ironic way.

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby Mick F » 20 Jan 2021, 10:01am

gaz wrote:
John Holiday wrote:Think that I may have discovered a way of persuading drivers to give riders plenty of clearance- tow a trailer!

Glad it works for you, it certainly doesn't for me.
It works perfectly for me.
Towed mine the length of the country a few times over the years, and it works brilliantly, locally and nationally, A roads, B Roads, twisty lanes, and dual carriageways, towns, cities, villages .......... everywhere.
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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby Tangled Metal » 20 Jan 2021, 1:02pm

Borrow a child trailer with kid or two. Then put baby on board stickers on the trailer. You'll get plenty of space but more than a few disapproving looks from the passenger seats of big SUVs. Those "you're an irresponsible parent" looks because these kids aren't in a metal box the size of a humvee!!!!

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Re: Two metre clearance

Postby mjr » 20 Jan 2021, 1:11pm

ChrisP100 wrote:it is guaranteed that when it rains there will be standing water both on the path and the edge of the carriage way,

And what have the highways department said when you've reported it? Norfolk Highways seem to detest standing water and usually (but not always) act quickly to clear the drains.
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