Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
I would say that regardless of how far away the junction was i still had time to brake and therefore the situation was still my fault
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
If everybody were to reflect on what they might have done better, rather than concentrating on what somebody else should have done, we might all be safer.
IMO a dashcam or equivalent is a useful tool for this type of thing.
IMO a dashcam or equivalent is a useful tool for this type of thing.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
Here's the HC with my emphasisroubaixtuesday wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 10:43amInteresting.
Not sure what rules or guidance there is on this, but I would always signal first, which allows vehicles contemplating an overtake to hold back then check, then move out.
PS Having slipped into my flame-resistant togs I'll quote John FranklinRule 67 (For cyclists)
You should
look all around before moving away from the kerb, turning or manoeuvring, to make sure it is safe to do so. Give a clear signal to show other road users what you intend to do (see ‘Signals to other road users’)
Look before you signal or move
When you are cycling, you should always look behind you before you signal a movement (etc)
Cyclecraft p75
Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
without seeing a video of the situation it is very difficult to make any judgement or criticism
Interesting your comment about the road positioning of the cyclist
some cyclists are very poor in that they stay close to the left, suddenly stick their arm out and then start to move across the full width of the road. Road positioning is key to staying safe, cyclists should be in a position on the road that is obvious they may be going to turn right long before the signal.
Interesting your comment about the road positioning of the cyclist
some cyclists are very poor in that they stay close to the left, suddenly stick their arm out and then start to move across the full width of the road. Road positioning is key to staying safe, cyclists should be in a position on the road that is obvious they may be going to turn right long before the signal.
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The HC under "Road users requiring extra care" has this:-
Rule 212
When passing motorcyclists and cyclists, give them plenty of room (see Rules 162 to 167). If they look over their shoulder it could mean that they intend to pull out, turn right or change direction. Give them time and space to do so.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
Haha! Don't worry, I've no intention of having an argument.thirdcrank wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 10:52amHere's the HC with my emphasisroubaixtuesday wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 10:43amInteresting.
Not sure what rules or guidance there is on this, but I would always signal first, which allows vehicles contemplating an overtake to hold back then check, then move out.
PS Having slipped into my flame-resistant togs I'll quote John FranklinRule 67 (For cyclists)
You should
look all around before moving away from the kerb, turning or manoeuvring, to make sure it is safe to do so. Give a clear signal to show other road users what you intend to do (see ‘Signals to other road users’)Look before you signal or move
When you are cycling, you should always look behind you before you signal a movement (etc)
Cyclecraft p75
I find signaling first gives a much better chance that motorists aren't doing something stupid when I do check.
But I shall consider the sage advice offered in future, too.
Thank you.
Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
You look first to check that the gap is viable.roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 10:43amInteresting.
Not sure what rules or guidance there is on this, but I would always signal first, which allows vehicles contemplating an overtake to hold back then check, then move out.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
Gap between what?tatanab wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 11:30amYou look first to check that the gap is viable.roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 10:43amInteresting.
Not sure what rules or guidance there is on this, but I would always signal first, which allows vehicles contemplating an overtake to hold back then check, then move out.
Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
???? The space you want to move into. The distance between you and the next vehicle, which is of course dependent on closing speed. In heavy traffic you might be looking for a room to move a couple of vehicles back.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
Sorry, you've lost me here.
The space I want to move into is alongside me, so I don't need to look behind for that.
Often there's a continuous or near continuous line of traffic behind. There's no way I can see how it's possible to look for spaces "a couple of vehicles back".
I do
1.Signal
2. Check behind that traffic has acted on the signal, isn't attempting an overtake.
3. Manoevre.
But I see the guidance helpfully posted above and I'll leave things at that.
Thanks for coming back.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
Motorcycles a right turn look over shoulder called life saver.
For the very reason
For the very reason
Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
whatever vehicle you are in or on from an artic to a bicycle you need to know that no one else is about to move into the space you are intending to move into, you can't just stick your arm out or indicators on then change lanes etc. You have to look first. Most other road users will make room for you but you have to give them a chance, not just barge out at a seconds notice.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
I'm not sure the OP did anything wrong - as said earlier, without seeing it is difficult to tell. The only advice I would give is that "things can change quickly" Although a junction may be a long way off, what happens if a car comes out of the road on the right (as an example) and heads towards you as you overtake?
A couple of years ago I had a scare..... country lane and I was aware of a car behind, only about 10 yards from a RH joining road and he decided to try and get past me- I saw a car just about to emerge from the junction and sprinted. Overtaking driver slammed on his brakes and just missed my rear wheel (I think it was that close, certainly felt like it!). As he went past 50 yards further I tried to make eye contact - he clearly decided to 'stare straight ahead' as he didn't want to acknowledge me.
A couple of years ago I had a scare..... country lane and I was aware of a car behind, only about 10 yards from a RH joining road and he decided to try and get past me- I saw a car just about to emerge from the junction and sprinted. Overtaking driver slammed on his brakes and just missed my rear wheel (I think it was that close, certainly felt like it!). As he went past 50 yards further I tried to make eye contact - he clearly decided to 'stare straight ahead' as he didn't want to acknowledge me.
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Re: Scared a cyclist on the road today, my fault
I say well done to the OP for putting his hands up and saying he believed he was in the wrong. Not many people will do that.
Steve