On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby rualexander » 27 Jul 2010, 2:40pm

Yes, there was something a bit odd about their luggage carrying. Panniers looked pretty empty most of the time, and I also noticed them riding with no panniers in last weeks episode. The panniers were Ortliebs though not Carradice.
Couldn't quite make out what tents they had but unless they had nothing much else in their panniers except the tents, then someone else was carrying them.
If you look through the photos on their blog you can see that sometimes the panniers look full, other times they look empty, and in some they have the tents on their rear racks.

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby yakdiver » 27 Jul 2010, 3:02pm

I suppose you could wonder if they are really cycling the whole route, pose for the cameras couple of miles, load bikes on to vans and carry on to the next location
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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby CREPELLO » 27 Jul 2010, 4:11pm

yakdiver wrote:I suppose you could wonder if they are really cycling the whole route, pose for the cameras couple of miles, load bikes on to vans and carry on to the next location
Unlikely, as one of them complained that they were on puncture number six, and the second that day. After that scene, I looked at their tyres which looked like some kind of Marathon. Six punctures is a lot for such a tyre. The tents are Tera Nova Laser (very) Large. Not the easiest tent to put up until you've figured out a good method. They've chosen well though - my tent and bike are the same, but I have the slightly smaller version, which is huge for one. Their 3 tents are complete overkill.

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby rualexander » 27 Jul 2010, 6:14pm

CREPELLO wrote: The tents are Tera Nova Laser (very) Large. Not the easiest tent to put up until you've figured out a good method. They've chosen well though - my tent and bike are the same, but I have the slightly smaller version, which is huge for one. Their 3 tents are complete overkill.

I don't think they are Lasers, I thought I did see a Terra Nova label on them but can't see any tunnel tents like that on the Terra Nova website. There's a slideshow of them doing a trial pitch on their blog about half way down the page here : http://www.woodbrothers.tv/post/2009/09 ... o-go!.aspx

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Postby CREPELLO » 27 Jul 2010, 11:44pm

rualexander wrote:
CREPELLO wrote: The tents are Tera Nova Laser (very) Large. Not the easiest tent to put up until you've figured out a good method. They've chosen well though - my tent and bike are the same, but I have the slightly smaller version, which is huge for one. Their 3 tents are complete overkill.

I don't think they are Lasers, I thought I did see a Terra Nova label on them but can't see any tunnel tents like that on the Terra Nova website. There's a slideshow of them doing a trial pitch on their blog about half way down the page here : http://www.woodbrothers.tv/post/2009/09 ... o-go!.aspx
Here we go! Mine is Large No. 1 or 2, there's are VERY large or No.3.

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Postby rualexander » 28 Jul 2010, 12:00am

Ah, thanks for that, there's no sign of those tents on the Terra Nova website though so maybe they are discontinued?

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Postby CJ » 29 Jul 2010, 3:34pm

eileithyia wrote:i did notice the rather empty front panniers towards the end of yesterdays programme.

Me too. Even the rears didn't look at all full, and no sign of all those rather large individual tents!

Looks to me like they're doing a deal of faffing about for the cameras after making camp for the day. Or maybe a couple of wags have been in a following car all the time (it would also explain the generous tentage) and after a few days of manly suffering, the lads have accepted that there's no point in making it even harder for themselves! Goodness knows it must be difficult enough already to make a film at the same time as making a tour.
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Postby eileithyia » 3 Aug 2010, 6:26pm

lack of tents on racks again in last night's prog! also why do they ride 3-abreast? i know these are fairly quiet roads but they were doing it last week on the pyrenean climb, whilst going round bends....... no doubt that the advance film were ensuring there was no oncoming traffic, but not a very good example.....
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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...response!

Postby samfwood » 15 Jul 2011, 6:44am

Hi everyone my name is Sam Wood - I just thought I'd take the chance to make a delayed reply to your comments about On Hannibal's trail!

FIrstly thanks to everyone for comments - some very nice ones and it was nice to come across you guys talking about the show.

To answer a few of the questions -

The punctures were a pain - schwalbe marathon tyres so yes I agree shouldn't have been so bad - my brother road over a bit of wire which wound its way into the tyre so we would fix it and pull out a piece of wire thinking that was it only to find more deeper as it would puncture again! We ended up pulling out a piece of wire about 5cms long all which was 'inside' the rubber...

The panniers were full and we did carry them! I hate that shot where we have no panniers I knew it would haunt us!! That shot was taken as you can see at sunset. We had ridden a full day were exhausted and had set up for the night - it was about 5 days into the trip so we not experienced with the film crew workings - the bbc crew said they had spotted a nice road which they wanted to film us on so we jumped on our bikes and road to it and basically forgot to put our panniers on - stupid i know but as most of you are touring bike riders you will know how tired you feel each evening in the first week of a bike tour so you might understand this was a genuine mistake!

As for carrying the tent - yep terra nova laser large chosen for low weight and capacity as well as privacy. THey are great light weight tents, they are very big - we wanted this because we felt we may have to camp rough and wanted to be able to put our bikes in the porch which we could just with these. Thirdly 3 tents for privacy - have you spent 11 weeks with your 2 siblings riding and working very long days - (riding was amazing but we either did that at the height of the sun in the middle of the day as bad for filming or even when dark as the filming took priority mornings and afternoons when it would have been great to have been on the road) and then sleeping packed in a tent?! We all decided the extra 2 kgs was worth it! Someone also noticed the tents were on the back panniers early on and then dissapeared! About a week in we culled alot of stuff due to weight - I must admit that every bike tour i go on I dump alot of stuff fairly early either through being overly ambitious to begin with or just realising it is hard work and wanting to reduce my load! We did exactly this - for example my brother Danny was carrying 5 books - Polybius, Livy etc serious historical tombs! This culling gave us room in our panniers. If you know laser larges you will know they have a air vent at the back end which is held up by a single pole which is the longest part of the tent 'package'. Breaking these in half meant they fit inside one of the rear panniers - not ideal but it worked...

As for the load variation - we did have 5 panniers which is a lot of space - the front ones were often pretty empty and sometimes we carried food, sometimes we didnt we also carried mini cameras at times when we were away from the crew and not when they were around so yes I can see the variation but there is nothing sinister about it. We all wanted to do it genuinely and the reality was we had no choice - the bbc crew was only with us for 7 of the 11 weeks. And no wags! I had a kid 3 months before I left so I was very popular going off for a bike ride and anyway a 3 month old wouldn't have gone very well in a tent!

As for riding 3 in a breast (sorry that is what our camera man used to shout out to us he isn't a cyclist!) yep not a great example but looks better for filming - we heard him shout this alot!

I think that is it! If there is anything else please ask. Sorry for replying so late I wish i had found this earlier. If you have any suggestions for next time please let us know as we trying to plan another now and we are thinking we may try to get lots of touring cyclists along for a leg!

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby snibgo » 15 Jul 2011, 4:42pm

Excellent. Many thanks for responding. It's always great to hear the stories behind the scenes.

It was a great tour, and great telly. Combining the two can't be easy. For the next series, you might contact local groups before the tour, ride with them in stages, interview worthies along the way, etc. It would add complexity to the organisation, especially if you need interpreters, but could be fascinating.

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby hondated » 18 Jul 2011, 4:55pm

Well done Sam for taking the time to give us a better insight to your trip.I enjoyed the programme and thought it was just great to see a prog that featured touring bikes.
And at the age of 60 I was pleased to learn something that I should of done at the age of 11.
I for one hope you and your brothers make another one and I look forward to watching it.

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby kyussmondo » 20 Jul 2011, 8:25am

I couldn't see it on iPlayer. Looks like I missed it unless I can find it on YouTube.

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby rualexander » 20 Jul 2011, 9:32am

kyussmondo wrote:I couldn't see it on iPlayer. Looks like I missed it unless I can find it on YouTube.

It was on a year ago, thats why!
This is an old thread thats been brought back to life by the above report from the film makers.
Although it has been repeated a couple of times, so will no doubt be on again sometime.

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Re: On Hannibal's Trail ...new BBC4 TV series

Postby DaveP » 20 Jul 2011, 6:48pm

Nice to hear from you Sam!
I managed to watch most of your trip, and I have to say, I enjoyed it. I guess there will always be people noticing details and wondering what they portend. Happily, no one was rude about it :D Personally,if someone cares enough to come on here and say "It was real" I'm inclined to believe them - as far as I'm concerned you've answered the charges satifactorily!
Do make another- its great to see a programme about cycling that doesnt feature stopwatches and sprockets :lol:
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Postby Big T » 27 Jan 2012, 8:03pm

I've just noticed that the series is being repeated, on BBC2. It's on at 8.30 tonight (Friday).
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